Liberty Dollar In Trouble?

Here is an update that I received via e-mail. BTW, prices for anything Liberty Dollar related on ebay have really shot up in the past couple of days.
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Friday, November 16, 2007: Make no mistake, the FBI and Secret Service raid on he Liberty Dollar at 8:00 AM on Wednesday, was a direct assault against the US onstitution and your right to own and use gold and silver in any way you chose.

I personally spoke to FBI agent Andrew Romagnuolo shortly after he and his gang invaded the peaceful home of the Liberty Dollar. He told me that the raid was related to the US Mint's warning and the beginning of a criminal investigation. This is the first battle of a long war that I intend to win!

Please note the Search Warrant, Seizure Warrant and Agent info is now posted. Click HERE for that info. If that link does not work the URL is: http://www.libertydollar.org/ld/legal/raid.htm.


Also posted is the correspondence between US Senator Bill Nelson of Florida and Edmond C Moy, Director of the US Mint. Of particular interest is Moy's statement that the! paper Certificates are not covered by the Title 18, Section 486 and hence legal. So there was no need to raid Sunshine Mint and confiscate all the gold and silver that backs the paper and digital currencies.

No need, unless the government knew their 486 case didn't have a chance of winning and needed to expand their case into the never-never land of mail fraud, wire fraud and money laundering as mentioned in the Seizure Warrant. I anticipate being arrested on any one or all of these charges.


But I see my arrest and trial as a golden opportunity to win and return our great country to a value based currency. I sincerely believe that the right creative marketer could orchestrate an effective counter attack and win big. I believe the Liberty Dollar will win and become one of the great institutions in America. I have devoted the past ten year to the Liberty Dollar and am willing to risk a few years in federal prison to vindicate it. Winni! ng is certainly possible, even probable with your help.

Wi! nning wi ll require good, dedicated legal support and your support. First, if you are angry and resent the government's assault on your right to own and use gold as you please then call the agents and express your displeasure of their actions in a polite way. Don't kill the messenger, just tell them they are wrong. Add your voice to this movement.


Second: If you are owed an order and want to get your money back or have paper certificates or digital Liberty Dollars, I urge you to demand redemption or the return of your money by joining the Class Action Lawsuit. Your participation is absolutely critical. If you don't join the CAL you will not get your money back. Please click HERE to sign up for the Class Action Lawsuit. If that link does not work, the URL is: http://www.libertydollar.org/classa...n/index.php.

Third: A Legal Defense Fund will be established very soon. Its purpose is to win the cr! iminal case and get your money back. It will take money to make it successful. So your contribution is also critical. Please don't let the government steal your money.


So if you have an existing order, want to redeem your paper Certificates or digital Liberty Dollars, please join the fight to defend our right to own and use gold as you so chose and sign up for the Class Action Lawsuit. This is the
only way you will get your stolen property back.

If you have no standing and want to finally get involved, no problem. There is still $20 million Liberty Dollars in circulation. Simply get some paper Liberty Dollars and sign up for the Class Action Lawsuit. There is still time for all the thick-headed Lewrockwellites, Markskousenites, Dougcaseyites and Agoraites to pull your head out and get 'right' on this important issue.


I regret to inform you that the Liberty Dollar office is now closed. The government boys took everything except for t! he desks and chairs. We have no stock, no records, no money. I! can' ;t even change the phone message because they took the phone manuals. Nor can I answer the thousands of email and calls from a national organization that now numbers into the hundreds of thousands. I am the last man standing. I need your help.

Thank you for your many offers of help. Now is the time for us to help our selves and our great country as it faces the greatest monetary challenge since the Revolutionary War. Buying gold and silver is good for you, but it will not solve our country's problems.


Government requires participation. The problems we have today are because our parents did not participate. Please keep using the Liberty Dollar. Keep the ideals and benefits of real money alive. Gold and silver is going to be very rewarding as the US dollar disintegrates. Please join the Class Action Lawsuit and give something to the Legal Defense Fund when it is established.

But you don't have to wait. Donations can be sent to the old address as the ma! il is now being forwarded. Of course we will still accept Liberty Dollars, but unfortunately due to the current situation, the attorneys require those dreaded depreciating US dollars.


Please make your check or money order out to me as there is no other bank account and mail it to: Liberty Dollar, 225 N. Stockwell Road. Evansville. Indiana. 47715.

Now is the time to band together and support our fight for value based currency as never before. Now is the time to throw off the yoke of a manipulated monetary/tax system and generate a peaceful and prosperous society.


Thank you, thank you, thank you for your offer of help, prayers and support.

The Liberty Dollar and our great country sincerely needs your support.

God bless you and our great country!


Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect

Go Here to Be Added to E-mail List http://www.libertydollar.org/ld/legal/raid.htm

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US Mint - Paper is legal (Click to View PDF)Search Warrent (Click to View PDF) http://www.libertydollar.org/legal/...er_legal.pdf

Seizure Warrent (Click to View PDF)Agent Information (Click to View PDF) http://www.libertydollar.org/legal/...20071114.pdf

Click to View Local Article http://www.courierpress.com/news/20...fice-raided/

Awesome- thanks Bobby!

No updates on Liberty Dollar that I'm aware of yet, but I bought a few coins on ebay from a guy who said he wanted to ship them to me quickly before the Feds paid a visit... lol.

Regards,
~neuron

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"That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!"

Here is the latest update, which I received via e-mail yesterday. Also, you can see Bernard von NotHaus' interviews and other Liberty Dollar-related videos on YouTube. Just go there and search the appropriate terms.

Regards,
~neuron
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters,

Usually at this time of the month, it is the deadline for the Liberty Dollar News, our monthly newsletter that has chronicled the Liberty Dollar for over nine years.

Of course all that came to a screeching halt when the g-boys raided the Liberty Dollar just two weeks ago on Wednesday, November 14. 2007.

So now I am running from the government, afraid for my life and trying to figure out what the hell to do next! Right? Wrong! Nothing could be further from reality. Please read these quick bulleted (no pun) items for a quick review of the latest developments:

IMPORTANT: If you have not received your order and you paid for it with a bank card, please call your bank immediately, cancel the transaction, reversing the transaction and GET YOUR MONEY BACK. Don't let the government steal your money!

1. First I am not running "from" the g-boys. It is just the opposite. I am running "to" the government. I see the current situation as an ideal opportunity to validate the Liberty Dollar. Otherwise they will have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am guilty and the Liberty Dollar is the scourge of the country. Luckily, my favorite FBI Agent "Andy" just called me yesterday... on my private cell phone. Well the cell phone is suppose to be "private" as most people don't know the phone number. So I complimented Andy on his resourcefulness and he responded that he was the "FBI". Now that impressed me and gave me a good secure feeling... because if the FBI could not find my cell phone number, we would really be hurting. In any case, Andy and I had a very "friendly" discussion for about 10-15 minutes. Seems that he wants to "talk" to me. I took that to mean that he wants to arrest me. So I asked about that and sure enough... a Grand Jury, indictment and arrest seems to be a given at this time.

Later in our discussions, when Andy was forth coming with other info, I complimented him on his "friendliness". To that Andy told me that he (that's the gov) would be as "friendly" as I was. Well, what is a poor boy to do, especially one in hot water with the feds... but be friendly. So trust me, I intend to be very "friendly". Seriously, I told my favorite FBI Agent Andy (who I am sure is reading this and can reply if he is so moved...) that I took the government's raid "very seriously." To which Andy replied, "And well you should... because the government takes it very seriously too."

So there you have it, my second call with my very Special Agent Andy. For the record, I spoke briefly to Andy shortly after he and his gang invaded the peaceful Liberty Dollar offices and raided it of everything. And as required, we received an inventory of the all confiscated material. Unfortunately, it was not as detailed as really required... simply stating 500 pounds of silver, without regard to year, weight, denomination or design was way too sloppy for this detailed pone arrestee-in-waiting.

Again, I am running "to" the government to absolve the Liberty Dollar as a legal, private, voluntary, barter currency as soon as possible. I want to get your property back ASAP. Please note this complete post for more important info on how you can help us get your property back.

2. Our first mission is to get your confiscated property back. Please don't call it stolen... yet. It will only be "stolen" if we lose this case. And God help us all if the Liberty Dollar is found guilty. So please take two actions: First sign up for the Class Action Lawsuit and encourage other people to do so. We need thousands and thousands of people demanding the return of their "stolen property". Second, we are launching a Legal Defense Fund to defend your right to use Gold and Silver any way you chose. It would be a very dangerous first step if the government started limiting the way you can use your own gold and silver. Please don't let this happen! Please donate $10 or more to this very serious movement.

Currently we cannot accept donation via a bank card... but we can accept checks, money orders and cash. It is OK to mail your donation to the same old address: Liberty Dollar. 225 N. Stockwell Road. Evansville. Indiana. 47715. Every single dollar, FRN or Liberty Dollar is greatly appreciated.

Stay tune for more exciting ways to donate as we ramp to drive this out of control government back to reality. We can do it... and we need your help.

3. Now lets get serious. Did you read the 35 page Affidavit filed by Agent Andy to show 'probable cause' for the issuance of the Search Warrant? If not please go to: http://www.libertydollar.org/legal/...ffidavit.pdf and read it! Read it very thoroughly. And while you do... ask yourself, "Where's the crime?" Where is the crime?!! Usually in such an Affidavit there is all sorts of names, dates, offences, and other info. None of that is in this Affidavit! It seems that I am guilty of selling a t-shirt to Karen, our favorite kinda-undercover agent who was well known from the get-go. Where is the crime? And the idea we were "laundering money" is almost a joke... if it was not such a serious matter. Trust me, this is a serious matter and is being taken most seriously.

4. Equally serious, is your fear that some good natured, smiling, Agent Andy is going to raid your home and confiscate your Liberty Dollars. I know paranoia is rabid. And many of you have good cause to be alarmed. The government's assault on our liberties and property has been way over the top. And many of us have lost property in the past. But this should only toughen our resolve for this case. But please don't fear a raid on your place or home. There is no way the government has the resources to mount such an attack with $20 million Liberty Dollars in hundreds of thousand of hands all over our great country. Take precautions, diversify your holdings is prudent for everyone.

While it is not the time to relax and be happy, paranoia is no friend. Good communication is our best companion. So if you hear of some related action, please report it to me directly and stay focused so we can get all our property back.

5. Towards resolving this testy matter, we are interviewing federal criminal attorneys and hope to secure good, dedicated, successful counsel asap. As I mentioned to Agent Andy, I wouldn't want to meet him without counsel.

6. I was encouraged when Agent Andy told me that he would call me when he knew the schedule so I could "turn myself in". I thought that was real "friendly" and thanked Andy, as I am obviously not hiding out and prefer that this matter be handled in a gentlemanly way. I just hope the arrest does not interfere with my other commitments. I will be in Evansville on Thursday, attorneys in DC, family for the holidays and please join me for a rare performance as the keynote speaker at the Liberty Forum in Nashua NH on Friday, January 4. Please consider coming to the Liberty Forum... just mention Liberty Dollar and get 10% off. Trust me this is going to be wild... just a couple of days before the big Presidential Primary!! Come to New Hampshire. Even Agent Andy is welcome. But lets find a convenient time for the arrest...OK?

7. Surprise!! Speaking of commitments. I will be in Evansville this Thursday, November 29! Open to all. Pot Luck at 6:00. Meeting at 7:00 and out for a beer at 9:00. Everyone is welcome. Please join me at the Liberty Dollar office: 225 N. Stockwell Road Evansville Indiana. 47715. Plenty of free parking. Just off the Lloyd Expressway. Just ask Agent Andy he found us. But I don't' think he will be there on Thursday.... but then again... maybe Andy can come out and play... and he might be thereJ

8. Plus... if you did not catch my interview with Glenn Beck on CNN or with Larry Kudlow on CNBC... please visit http://www.libertydollar.org/ld/legal/raid.htm. Who would have thought that the raid would generate national news... let alone two shows on the same night and at the same time! The little Liberty Dollar just amazes me.

9. While doing the two national shows was good fun, it was not all the coverage. In fact, there are dozens of newspaper articles. The most amazing coverage came from a most amazing source, The Washington Post. Not only did the Post cover the raid, it was featured on the Front Page, plus it included a image of the Ron Paul Dollar! And if all that was not enough, the article was quite large and REALLY GOOD. It all started when Jan Salsbery, one of many fiery RCOs in California, referred Alec MacGillis, a reporter with the Washington Post to call me. As usual, Alex sounded like a very bright, very young reporter. And as I explained with a certain amount of contempt, you might write a good (truthful) article, but it will be sausage when the editors get done. But very late Friday night Alec called me and said the "editors" liked the story and was going to give it "some space." Well who would have thought ... Front Page for the Liberty Dollar and Ron Paul?! Now who could image that he will be our next President... I for one! And hope you agree! Our country really needs Ron Paul. As the silver Ron Paul Dollar states: VOTE FOR TRUTH.

PS: To Alec's credit, he followed up with a call on Monday, and subsequently wrote an additional outstanding article: http://www.libertydollar.org/news-s...95598713.pdf

10. The local television and newspaper also provided very good coverage. It is amazing how many people are interested in the Raid on the little Liberty Dollar and the confiscation of two tons of Ron Paul Dollars. Of course your support is critical to our success. BIG Thanks for all you have done!

11. And finally have you seen the prices of the Ron Paul Gold, Silver and Coppers Dollars. One day the copper is a buck and the next day $65 or more on ebay! Silver is in the $250 to $450 range! Just crazy! And that is not even for the special numbered or hallmarked editions. Are you hip to the Hallmarked Ron Paul Silver Dollars? The Hallmark features a micro scroll with BOR denoting Ron's respect for the Bill of Rights.

Quite simply, there is a lot to be thankful for. When we started the Liberty Dollar we did not get an instruction manual. We did not know how the Liberty Dollar was going to save the country from a monetary crisis. But we vowed not to let our great country falter without trying. We all, even Agent Andy, have a civic duty to our country. We are commanded by the Declaration of Independence: We hold these truths to be self-evident... That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. We shall not let this country fail to live up to the ideals upon which it was founded by our Founding Fathers. Let us each vow that our country will not falter on my watch!

Now as I face eminent threat of arrest and possibly many years in prison, you have my sincere thanks for supporting the Liberty Dollar that exemplifies those very ideals. Our Founding Fathers fought and died for them, we shall do nothing less.

Remember it is only by banding together and adopting a free and independent currency that provides us with "just weights and measures" will we be able to throw off the yoke of a manipulated monetary/tax system and generate a peaceful and prosperous society.

Change the money / Change the country / Change the world. Do it now!

Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect/Editor
November 27, 2007

Here is the latest update, from Wednesday, December 5:

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December 5, 2007

Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters,

Liberty Dollar Lives! Announcing the Arrest Dollar!

URGENT NOTICE: We are preparing to file the Class Action Lawsuit (CAL) to begin the process to get your property back. PLEASE register for the CAL immediately at: http://www.libertydollar.org/classaction/index.php. PLUS, the digital Liberty Dollar (eLD) has been turned on! Now you can check your balance, transfer eLD between accounts and get a digital Liberty Dollar emailed to you so you can be a part of the Class Action Lawsuit. Right now there are over 2500 people on the CAL. We would like to double that to 5,000 names. Please join today.

And in a tremendous show of support for the Class Action Lawsuit, $2000 in eLibertyDollars have been donated towards the CAL. If you need an eLD to qualify for the CAL, just sign up and send in a donation and we will credit an eLibertyDollar to your digital account. PLEASE SIGN UP TODAY. The CAL action is pending. We`are moving aggressively to protect your property that backs up the paper and digital currency.

Now the BIG news. In defiance of the brutal raid that confiscated all of our metals, computers and almost everything, except our free independent spirit. The Liberty Dollar has re-opened and lives with the new "Arrest Dollar"! Thanks to the outpouring of support and the rock solid encouragement from the Regional Currency Offices (RCO), I am proud to be a part of such a staunch organization that refuses to bow to this senseless raid by the FBI and Secret Service that did everything possible to close the voice for Sound Money.

As Jason Hornberger, the President of https://www.FFF.org commented: "If the government wishes to have a business shut down, the law provides a remedy called an injunction, which is a formal order issued by a judge that requires a person or business to cease and desist from engaging in a certain operation."

We have not received any injunction. Nor a cease and desist order. We have not done anything wrong. We stand on the principle that we are innocent until proven guilty. As free men and women we can do whatever we wish. so long as we do not violate the Law. With 33 years in this industry and no knowledge of any crime plus the advise of legal counsel. I hereby announce the Liberty Dollar lives as "Liberty Dollar Numismatics".

Now, don't get me wrong. We have not dropped our goal of "returning America to value' by providing an "inflation proof" currency. Nor have we become just a "collectable" business. We remain dedicated to our original goals. It is just that we must make-do with what we have and what we can do.

The Liberty Dollar office is now re-opened! Sarah Bledsoe, the trusty manager who was at the Evansville office when I arrived from Hawaii, will continue to man the office. Unfortunately, she will be alone, so if you don't reach her, please leave a message.

Our number one mission is to get your property retuned to you ASAP. The single best action we can take is to stay in business. answer the phone. bring comfort to our supporters. act as a call center for media and donations to fight this obvious wrong. and work to cover our legal expenses.

Our current business model is to auction the donated Liberty Dollars on ebay. as we continue to fight for your right to use gold and silver any way you chose and keep the ideals that the Liberty Dollar exemplifies alive.

Announcing the "Arrest Dollar" to help fund our legal defense. Check it out at http://www.libertydollar.org/ld/arr...r/images.htm. The new "Arrest" Hallmark has just been created to mark special items issued during these difficult and very limited times too. In all likelihood, the Arrest Dollar will only be available between now and my arrest, as it seems unlikely that I will be doing any hallmarking after I am arrested.

Appropriately, the Hallmark, features "Handcuffs", and will be stamped on special items or any Liberty Dollar products you submit for Hallmarking. As a means to raise funds for our legal defense, the cost is $10 per Hallmark. Currently, a few donated $20, $10, and $5 Silver Libertys have been Hallmarked and are available for $30, $20, and $15 respectively plus $6 for handling and shipping. If you wish to beat ebay before these are auctioned off. please send your order, payable in money orders or check made out to "Bernard", as we do not have a company bank account.

PLEASE NOTE: We could be raided again! You could lose whatever you send to Liberty Numismatics . but if you don't send anything. I regret that we will lose the Liberty Dollar and the ideals it represents. Please give generously and submit whatever you wish to be Hallmarked. Just remember the mail and Hallmarking takes time. plus it is Christmas. and like you, I will be with my family too.

Unfortunately, we do not have a company bank account in Evansville. A money order is the best way to send a donation but checks made out the "Bernard" still work.

Got those dreaded, depreciating Non-Federal Non-Reserve IOU-Notes? Old Liberty Dollars in any form are greatly appreciated too. we need material for ebay. Cash is OK too. All checks and money orders, MUST be made out to "Bernard", as we have no company bank account. Please send everything to the old Liberty Dollar address: 225 N. Stockwell Road. Evansville. IN. 47715.

So do you have a Liberty Dollar to spare for the cause? Certificates, while not suitable for Hallmarking, are particularly sought after for our ebay auctions.

Who knows where we go from here? One of the best ideas I heard was for a Black Sabbath Liberty! As a heavy metal rocker, I could certainly identify with that idea! Seriously, our country is going in debt at nearly $1 million US dollars a minute. over $1 billion a day! US National Debt will hit $10 Trillion in a year! This is a very serious time for us and our money! You must take action. Either change your money or lose it.

As for me, I am innocent until proven guilty. I have an unalienable right of free speech. I refuse to go the showers quietly. Now hear me: The government fiat money is not worth ! You either change your money or lose it. The longer you wait the more you lose. This country, the world, is headed towards a major monetary crisis. Not since Rome fell has man faced such an immense event. This collapse will make the Great Depression look like a cakewalk. We are headed towards a global hyperinflationary depression. Soon most people will be millionaires in a soup line. if not in prison. Get out of the soup line! The sooner you change your money the more you will make or at least preserve. For your own protection, please take action right now!! Buy Silver immediately. Support the Liberty Dollar model with a donation. We need a survivable monetary system. We need your help. Please donate $10 or more!

When the Federal Reserve meets on December 11, they are expected to cut interest rates. and that means more easy money. and another step towards a global hyperinflationary depression! These people are mad. This is not going to be just a US problem. When Rome fell, it was the world, as they knew it. This experience would have make Jimi Hendrix flinch! This is no purple haze hallucination. It is real and it will affect you.

On a positive note. I am pleased to receive all your support. Recently the legendary Robert Clarkson of the Patriot Network has come to our aid. Interestingly, he too was raided by the same Agent Andy and had all his seized material returned. Please visit his incredible site at https://www.PatriotNetwork.info. And if you really want to get an insight into the government's war against activists click on COINTELPRO in the left column and then use code 4143 to access Part 3 and 4 and learn the truth about the government's "dismantlment" program against organizations like the Liberty Dollar!

Plus we have received so many comments, we have started a "Comments" page at the top of the Raid Page. Please check out the latest Comment by G. Edward Griffin at http://www.libertydollar.org/ld/leg...mmentary.htm.

Please support the Liberty Dollar with a Hallmark and a donation. Sign up for the Class Action Lawsuit today! Please don't let the government steal your money and drive the Liberty Dollar out of business.

BIG thanks for all the donations we received!! Every donation counts!

Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect/Editor

PS: Time to revisit Bernard's Second Law of Money:
"Any government action that purports to prohibit an American citizen from using a piece of gold or silver (or, for that matter, anything) in voluntary barter transactions between consulting adults is preposterous, antagonistic to a free market, and totally without legal merit."

Here is the latest e-mailed update:
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Friday, December 14, 2007

Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters:

Dark Moment for Liberty Dollar

I am shocked to inform you that we have learned that the FBI is moving aggressively to forfeit "their" seizure for auction immediately!

If that does not shock and alarm you, you are truly asleep! If there has ever been a time to support the Liberty Dollar with an Arrest Dollar and a donation. it is now!

Due to higher than anticipated demand for the Arrest Dollar, a printable order from as been created to simplify the process. It is available HERE.

This is so shocking that it makes one wonder what is going on. Unfortunately, the draconian raid/seizure/forfeiture by this government is SOP - Standard Operating Procedures! In fact, the more you learn, the worse it is. Once raided, the victim need not be arrested or even charged with a crime before his/her property can be forfeited and auctioned. This is so common that the police often refer to the seized property as "their" property. After all, like any common thief, they stole it. its "theirs"! Or so they would have you think!

Wait! It is not quite that simple with the Liberty Dollar. You see, I considered this dirty, stinking government trick when I designed and developed the Warehouse Receipt (WR) program. And although I didn't think they would really be this bad or simply ignorant. there is no doubt now. For that reason I am not the signatory on the Warehouse Receipt. Nor could I sign the WR because I am not the Warehouse Official. I don't even work for the warehouse. Remember the warehouse is totally independent and the official issuer of the warehouse receipt. NORFED, Liberty Services, myself, everybody who uses them are simply distributors of the receipts.

But the worst news is "economic persecution". Now we have to fight for your property. with nothing because they took everything in the raid. If we hadn't received some donations to get a new computer, we wouldn't even be able to send out this cry for help. This is very serious!

The Search/Seizure Warrants were for property at specific addresses. The property they seized at Sunshine backed the legal, signed Warehouse Receipts. That property was, and still is, owned by the bearers of the warehouse receipts and the digital Liberty Dollar holders. That is your property that they are trying to steal!

So in all fairness, I don't think Agent Andy and the FBI who raided the warehouse at Sunshine Mint know what they are doing. Yes, they can certainly be more damaging than a village idiot, but they may not know much more. It is obvious that they don't understand how a warehouse receipt program works. Except for my personal account at Sunshine, none of the confiscated material at Sunshine Mint was my property. It was YOURS!

Now! Are you going to let the US government steal your property?!
Click HERE to sign up for the Class Action Lawsuit.

You did nothing illegal! You heard about the new "inflation proof" currency and decided to check it out on line at https://www.LibertyDollar.org. You did your own "due diligence". You read quotes by the government that the Liberty Dollar was legal and that it was not counterfeit. Many of you even called the Fulfillment Office to check out the new currency. Then you made an informed decision to exchange some of your depreciating US dollars for some appreciating gold and silver based Liberty Dollars in specie, paper warehouse receipts and digital form.

Owning gold and silver in any form is not illegal! Over 500,000 individual legal binding warehouse receipts have been issued over the past ten years. Over 25,000+ individuals have visited our site and gotten Liberty Dollars. Neither you nor I are guilty.

Nor did you violate Title 18, Section 486 either. Even US Mint Director Edmond C. Moy acknowledged in a letter to a US Senator that the paper warehouse receipts were not illegal. Section 486 only concerns "use" in metal form. You were not even using the gold and silver. Your property, your metal was stored in the warehouse. You are not guilty. You are a victim!

The gold and silver seized from the issuing warehouse was not the property of the Liberty Services, Liberty Dollar, myself, or even the warehouse... it remains the property of the bearer warehouse receipt holders. It is YOUR property. To date 3,086 people have signed up to be a party to the Lawsuit and GET THEIR PROPERTY BACK.

I ask again: Are you going to let the US government steal your property?!

As bad as all that is, the precious metals industry should be very concerned because if the government can confiscate our gold and silver, they can confiscate theirs. Any raid and liquidation of a private, independent gold and silver warehouse sets an extremely dangerous precedent by this darn government. Where is ICTA - Industry Council for Tangible Assets when we need them?

Now hear this! The government is moving aggressively right now to steal your property! Please join the Lawsuit to recover the wrongful seizure of your property. If you have not signed up for the Wrongful Seizure Lawsuit (Class Action Lawsuit) do it NOW. It is the only way to get your property back. Please take action immediately! Click HERE to sign up!

Clarification on the Class Action Lawsuit. We have referred to the lawsuit to recover the wrongfully seized property of the Warehouse Receipts and the digital Liberty Dollar holders, as a Class Action Lawsuit. But as we already have 3111 names of the injured parties, this is not a class action lawsuit. We plan to list everybody by name on the lawsuit. We want the judge to see how many people the US government has injured. It is important for the judge to know that thousands of good people from all over the United States, who committed no crime, have been injured and need immediate restitution. We have now renamed the lawsuit to Wrongful Seizure Lawsuit.

Please read the affidavit to establish "Probable Cause" for the Search and Seizure Warrants and ask yourself, "Where is the crime? When did it happen? Where? Who is the injured party?" http://www.libertydollar.org/legal/...ffidavit.pdf

In Alert #4 I mentioned The Soviet-Style Attack on NORFED by Jacob Hornberger. This excellent commentary is available at: http://www.fff.org/comment/com0711j.asp

Another excellent commentary, Gestapo raid on coin-producing enterprise by Dr. Richard H. Timberlake, noted monetary economist and expert on the Fed, has been posted at: http://www.libertydollar.org/commen...6838996.pdf.

Dozens of great commentaries are available on the Comment Page at: http://www.libertydollar.org/ld/leg...mmentary.htm

Thank you for the compliments on getting the digital eLibertyDollar up and running. Please send your digital donations to: Donation@LibertyDollar.org .

While we accept digital Liberty Dollar for donation, it is those darn non-Federal non-Reserve IOU Notes that are needed for the legal defense. Physical Liberty Dollars in paper and digital form that we can auction on ebay for more depreciating FRNs would be greatly appreciated too.

We continue to have a problem getting a bank account open. For now, please send all checks and money orders simply made out to BERNARD.

BIG Thanks for your donations. I apologize that I simply do not have time to respond to all the letters and good wishes. But please keep including the letters. It is good to know you are aware that we are fighting for you and your property. You did nothing wrong!

Orders for Arrest Dollars are very appreciated too. A newly created order from is available HERE. Remember they will only be available until I am arrested. So if you want a specially hallmarked Arrest Dollar. please send order now. I have no idea when I will be arrested.

Now as we face the greatest monetary challenge since the Revolutionary War, lets work together to create a free and independent currency that provides us with "just weights and measures". We should not be ripped off by the government money!

Please support the Liberty Dollar with an Arrest Dollar and a donation. Sign up for the Wrongful Seizure Lawsuit today! Please don't let the government steal your money and drive the Liberty Dollar out of business.

BIG thanks for all the prayers, letters and donations we have received!!

Every donation counts! Thank you!

Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect/Editor

When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews, I did not speak out; I was not a Jew.
When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.
Friedrich Gustav Martin Niemöller

Except for the very few dollars and coins in my pocket (and I hope more in your pockets) I would say that most money today is a string of 0's and 1's --that is electronic. If you have direct deposit for your paycheck and you pay by check or even direct transfer of funds, you never see the money.

Say you have some gold put aside. It is worth only what someone else who has something you want says it is worth. The gold itself doesn't have any value.

Out of curiousity, is there an outside party ensuring that they have the gold/silver "on hand" to back their e-money and certificates? What happens if they go out of business? I'd never buy into that just because if the world "ended", the social infrastructure fell, and the government collapsed, I think I'd be bartering basic neccessities to get food (who are you going to find that accepts gold and would use it? like the local goldsmith?!)

I'm surprised they haven't been charged with terrorism or the such for trying to undermine US currency.

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't see the second page to this discussion.

I am behind in posting updates... so my apologies if you have been following the thread!

Here is the update I received on 12/20:
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December 20. 2007

Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters,

As the Holidays approach, I am pleased to share some good news. Yes the dark forfeiture hangs over our head but this is much to cheer about!

We just received a Christmas present from Ron Paul who introduced new legislation that mentions the "Liberty Dollar" and "asset forfeiture" in his "Free Competition in Currency Act" on 13 December 2007. WOW! Thanks Ron. Now available at:
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/c...r121307h.htm.

A recent article in the Evansville Courier & Press headlines: "Business booming after raid". And indeed it is. As announced earlier Liberty Dollar has re-opened as Liberty Numismatics! Maybe it is just Christmas sales but it is good news for the Liberty Dollar. Read all about it at: http://www.courierpress.com/news/20...oomingafter.

Do you live in New England? Dedicated to the ideals of Liberty? Want to see Ron Paul just before he wins the New Hampshire Primary? Interested in the Liberty Dollar? Please consider coming to the 2008 Liberty Forum January 4-6 in Nashua, New Hampshire. I will give the keynote address on Friday evening, January 4th. US Senator John Sununu is the keynote speaker on Saturday evening and Ron Paul will address all of us on Sunday afternoon. This is sure to be a hoot! Mention Liberty Dollar and code 2008LD for a 10% discount when you register.

Meanwhile, as I have not been arrested. yet. the Arrest Dollar is still available. Believe me. this is a very limited time offer! Please consider supporting the Liberty Dollar by getting a special Silver Liberty that is hallmarked with Handcuffs. Each Arrest Dollar also features my federally registered Mintmark. Available for $30, $20 and $15 each. All the money goes to support the Liberty Dollar.

There you have it. With a bit of luck, we should have more good news before the end of the year. Stay tuned. And please donate. business may be booming. but its costly to defend your right to use gold and silver and get your property back!

Please don't let the government steal your property!

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your support and your donation.

Merry Christmas & Season Greetings to all!

Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect/Editor