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 Posted 12/14/2015  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
T1Steel, is that a dent near those round things? It looks worst than the one seen on CC-Ottawa's coin.
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 Posted 12/14/2015  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T1Steel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@MoneyPenny- no dents , nice coin ,just that the gold is offset a bit.
Also @Silveroid- no milk spot I think just the lighting.

Looks like the price is also dropping a bit on the bay. I will keep the coin for my collection.

Did any one get a Christmas card from the mint? There was one in the mail box from RCM today.
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 Posted 12/14/2015  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@T1Steel: I would call the RCM and inquire about a replacement coin.

Just like with CC-Ottawa's coin, the impairment will always be the first thing you see when having a look at the coin - it will always be there to lessen your enjoyment of it.


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 Posted 12/14/2015  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I will keep the coin for my collection.


The best decision unless you would like some cash.

The advise given by Commems is correct (about asking RCM), but I do not think, that this is serious imperfection.
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 Posted 12/14/2015  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rg500s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I doubt there's any chance at getting any replacement coins. I was told today by my rep that everything has been sent out and there is no chance at getting any through cancellations.
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 Posted 12/15/2015  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Did any one get a Christmas card from the mint? There was one in the mail box from RCM today.


I received one yesterday as well.

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 Posted 12/15/2015  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The price of the coin has soften a bit.

This one sold today for C $560.00 with only 2 bidders.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/VOYAGEUR-EXC...refresh=true

There was one that showed as completed for $999 but was immediately relisted so it was unlikely sold for that price.

The price drop is not unexpected as more coins are being listed on ebay. Especially by the seller who sold 12 coins and single handedly drove the prices down.



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 Posted 12/15/2015  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rg500s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not really a good time of year for selling, with Christmas right around the corner. I expect the price will climb back up. Any thoughts?
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"The price drop is not unexpected as more coins are being listed on ebay. Especially by the seller who sold 12 coins and single handedly drove the prices down." I agree.

As such, I had sent this seller the following message several days ago.

Dear saintjohann,

"A week ago you had 3 sold with one remaining. Now you have 9 sold with 1 remaining. Then you had a BIN to boot. Impossible on this coin. Don't know exactly what you're doing or trying to achieve. I'm sure we'll find out in time."

Their recent reply

"Hello, my non-interogatory friend,

"Don't know exactly what you're doing..." Selling coins!

"... or trying to achieve." Again, selling coins!

"I'm sure we'll find out in time." Take a breath and wait no longer; I'm selling coins. What are you doing?

"Then you had a BIN to boot..." No, the listing preceeding your message is, in fact, a buy it now listing. The other listing was an open auction.

"Impossible on this coin." Impossible...precisely how? Flying too near the sun on wings of wax (an apt analogy for your reasoning process) = impossible. Lotsa other things that simply can not be done (e.g., turning fools into geniuses) = impossible. Selling coins = not impossible, my querulous, incredulous Canuck friend!

Some people say that nothing is impossible: http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/audio/n...-impossible/

Please re-read you message. Did you ask any questions? No, not a single one. Did you make a boat-load of assumptions? Sointenly. Next time, ask questions first; check facts second; make assumptions and accusations (if warranted) lastly.

I've been on ebay ten years longer than you, with a feedback rating multiple times yours. What is it, precisely, that you hope to gain by lecturing me?

This has been your sixty-second thought for the day, brought to you by Richard Evans, LDS. Don't know Richard Evans or never heard his thoughts for the day? Look him up, you be glad you did.

P.S. - I liked your last fishing expedition, er, message, too: "How do you ship here without custom charges." What a question! Asking me to break the law for you, you anonymous, truculent, suspicious old goat you! You don't pay much attention to your own country's taxation and importation laws, do you? (Good thing I do!)

Good god, man, grow up and get a life! Go waa-waa to your mommie if you're so bitter and leave the numismatics to your betters. Or better yet, here's a quarter (non-collectible; it's on a pre-paid calling card), call someone who cares."

Not the most brilliant response
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 Posted 12/15/2015  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nubee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I feel once the ebay auction listings are gone the price will stabilize until the 2nd of the series is issued.
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 Posted 12/15/2015  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Not the most brilliant response


I agree with this.
But he said a truth - he is just selling a coins, trying to maximize his profit.
No custom charges - this is benefit for us, buyers
Think this way - the man maid 12 collectors happier, by selling a coin, that they couldn't get.

I think the price of the coin stabilized... CAD 700-800.
The second coin in series, or issue of the same design 1oz coin (for everyone, which is very possible) or bullion with the same design will have some influence on the price.
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"he is just selling a coins, trying to maximize his profit."

It's not a "he". No way "he" could not get this many but it's a moot point as the RCM just lets this slide.

As stated earlier it's a dealer circumventing the embargo rule "to maximize their profits."

Therein lies the problem. With me anyway.
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 Posted 12/15/2015  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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As stated earlier it's a dealer circumventing the embargo rule "to maximize their profits."


Embargo rules was broken, when we fist saw the Voyageur listing on the ebay...and it wasn't this seller.

I am against the "hoarding", but here we have either dealer, or the person who bought a bunch of these for already increased price, so why we should care how he is selling them?
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 Posted 12/15/2015  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The price drop is not unexpected as more coins are being listed on ebay. Especially by the seller who sold 12 coins and single handedly drove the prices down." I agree.


If only 12 coins sold at $499 USD ($687 CAD) - actually 11, last I looked the 12th hadn't sold yet - has the ability to drive prices down, that says to me that the secondary market is showing extreme weakness and lack of interest at even this price. At most 12 buyers should be a tiny drop in the bucket to a sought after and popular issue.

If other dealers have up to 220 in hand, it will be interesting to observe what happens next week as they begin rolling out.
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If one has a problem with this sellers one should question the RCM as I have said all along this coin was suppose to be a reward for mcs and nothing else, why are they even holding 10% for dealers
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