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I picked this up today from a very reputable dealer (albeit not a specialist in ancients). While I consider myself a neophyte in this field, I'll go out on a limb and say what I think it is. I believe this is an antoninianus and that the emperor whose effigy appears on the obveres is Marcus Julius Philippus (d. 249 AD). On the reverse it looks like a depiction of the goddess Victoria, with an inscription that I translate as (more or less), "Victory for the Emperor" which is rather ironic as Philip was slain battling rebellious troops commanded by his successor, Trajan Decius. Evidently significant silver content (it has a very nice ring), a bit over 23mm in diameter with a weight of 3.8 grams. Were I evaluating this specimen as I would a more modern coin made with a press, I'd say the obverse die was very worn while the reverse one was much more fresh, but I'm not at all certain such an analysis is valid for something like this. One last detail is that is has coin rather than medal alignment.   Your opinion and any additional information and/or corrections welcome. Colligo ergo sum
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01/05/2016 2:15 pm
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Very beautiful reverse...
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RIC 50 I believe. Great looking reverse.
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I agree with your thoughts about obverse die wear.
Nice coin, being well centered with complete legends, no major edge splits.
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I agree the obverse die is well worn compared to the reverse. They must not have had another obverse die ready to go.
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very nice reverse , for the obverse , maybe it only weak strike ; some letters are very well -HILI - others not ; It happens often with later antoniniani.albert
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In doing a bit of online research this morning, I ran across this image that shows what a well struck obverse should look like.  Colligo ergo sum
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The coin you linked to (RIC 51) has the Rv legend VICTORIA AVGG
This indicates two emperors (Philip II)
Yours has the AVG reverse indicating it to be an early issue dating between AD 244-47 when Philip was sole emperor. The son was granted the title in AD 247 and survived his father in 249. When the news reached Rome of Philips defeat and death the young Philip II was murdered by the Praetorians.
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I'm with Albert on this one. It is difficult to find antonniniani of this period that show a good strike on both sides. Most have a strong side and a weak side. Not sure why.
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The coin you linked to (RIC 51) has the Rv legend VICTORIA AVGG I'm embarrassed to admit I missed that, you're absolutely correct. At least the website obviously missed this detail also, attributing the coin to Philip I. Does anybody have a link to an image of RIC 50? Colligo ergo sum
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The coin "is" of Philip I
The designation of AVGG merely shows a co-emperor.
As the young lad was all of 9 when given the rank it is safe to assume his responsibilities were for representing the old man at public events.
On rare occasions the designation of AVGGG appears on some coins of other 3rd century emperors.
I had one of Gordian III which I sold off.
Always regretted that !
So it goes
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01/07/2016 4:24 pm
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RIC 50 is a plate coin in volume IV, with a reverse very similar to yours, but not as sharp as yours. It is illustrated as Plate 5, coin 9. I was not able to come up with a #50, but I did find a #49b in my collection with the same legends as yours for both sides of the coin.  Obv.: IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG Rev.: VICTORIA AVG If you need a scan of the RIC illustration for #50 that is possible. Edited by lrbguy
01/07/2016 6:36 pm
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The designation of AVGG merely shows a co-emperor. I understand now, thank you for clarifying the point. Mea culpa for not reading your first reply more carefully, and thus jumping to a wrong conclusion, which had I given it the proper consideration, I oughtn't have since the effigy is clearly of the father. So my embarrassment is compounded. I think what threw me off a bit also was that I was aware that there were specific Philip II issues, and going back and looking at that, well, of course the effigy on such is of a youth. Quote:
I did find a #49b in my collection lrbguy - That is a wonderful specimen, a very circular planchet and particularly well centered, I'd judge. Colligo ergo sum
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01/07/2016 11:08 pm
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