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The experts are saying extra thick letters and letters with a notch is double dies,they also said that about wavy steps for awhile.to me a double die is suppose to show doubling how do we not know for sure it isn't an anomaly like the trails and wavy steps.has anyone peeled the copper coating back to see if there is a double image or is this just people who say these things to make money off of coins.
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Kevin, believe it or not, most of the attributors of die varieties do not sell coins that often. Then you have some like Charles Daughtrey and Bob Piazza of Copper Coins, as well Dr. Wiles on CONECA, that have devoted most of their lives to studying and discovering and providing all of us with valuable resources FOR FREE. You will even have some of the legends of the hobby stop by here on CCF to give us all FREE advice and knowledge. No, the guys that make all the money are the shareholders of ebay. Most of the dealers on there do not make a lot of profit. There are some that do, dont get me wrong, but if you are into varieties for the money, well you are going to be sadly mistaken. Most do it for the love of it. I sell on ebay, and do enough to let me enjoy the hobby more than I would otherwise. |
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Kevin43, If your serious about learning Doubled Die varieties, then I recommend search and read up. Learn what is and what isn't possible. I've never heard of peeling copper coating or layer(s) to find such. Thanks, Doug.
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01/29/2016 10:10 pm
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BTW, prior to 1982, there was no copper coating.
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The experts are saying extra thick letters and letters with a notch is double dies,they also said that about wavy steps for awhile.to me a double die is suppose to show doubling how do we not know for sure it isn't an anomaly like the trails and wavy steps.has anyone peeled the copper coating back to see if there is a double image or is this just people who say these things  to the forum Kevin43. In some cases thick letters. letters with notches, wavy steps, doubled letters, anomalies, trails, and many other things are valuable. In some cases they are not. If you hang around here long enough, you will learn to tell the difference. There are lots of good people here with varying levels of expertise. We all enjoy the hobby and help each other. Some reap rewards monetarily, some amass beautiful collections. There are secret forums not yet open to you. If indeed you hang around and learn numismatics, new doors will open. Whatever your decision, I will support you 100%. Sincerely, The CoinMasters |
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So you aren't mislead, you don't get a funny hat when you get to the 'secret' forums. |
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I am far from a beginner I have been collecting since I have been 5 I am 43 now I know about double dies I have read books and for about 15 years I have been going through 500 to 1000 coins a week some weeks more some less it is just back when alot of the experts had said wavy steps was a double die I never believed it and now that they say there not alot of the prices of wavy steps have dropped,with notching and extra thick letters and I am not talking about big notches it is them small indents on alot of shield pennies that could possibly be like the wavy steps is all I am saying.
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I really admire the experts that try to show that something isn't what alot of people will say it is because they are taking the time to go that extra mile to make sure it is which sadly sometimes it takes years.
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Very helpful link DBM - thanks!
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I keep extra thick letter coins when I find them,they are more rare than the notched letters,i know how the master dies and the working dies are made and if something is just a little off it could make the letter thick or the die a little worn and someone adjust the press it could push it harder to make it thicker,the reason I brought this discussion up is because I was hoping someone could tell me the proof of it.there is quite a few things in the past that has been called double dies and then found out it wasn't a double die.
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The experts do not always agree. There is no standard when observing these coins. The coins with very small notching or just thicker lettering do not carry very much premium. Again the premium is not the reason in most cases. It is the fact that out of the milions of coins struck that year, you have found one that is different and may have had only 10,000 that look just like it. Now 10,000 may sound like a lot, but think of all the different places these coins end up. How many are lost forever? Now the number of coins that are the same is smaller. For me, I do not concentrate on the ery small stuff. I like coins that when you show the variety to them, they say WOW. We are close to the same age and have been collecting about the same amount of time. Varieties is a very small section of coin collecting. I would venture a guess that less than 5% of coin collectors collect varieties. And it is not the expert that deems the coin a particular variety that comes up with the value. It is the market that dictates what that variety is worth.
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Thank you for that answer seal006 I agree with everything you just said.
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I love coin collecting where I live is a small town there is no coin shops or places where you can go to talk about coins.i have never been one to get on the internet but my son who is 14 talked me into it and even found this site for me which it is great to be able to talk with other collectors and find out how they view things.
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