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Right you are, Marcel, which makes it catalog # 243.
What's wrong with the E in DEI (other than the die crack)? And how many "slips" in repairing Stem 9? I can provide a blowup of the Leaf 9 area if necessary.
Edited by JHax 04/23/2016 11:58 am
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Try these.  
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The Haxby 243 is a tough variety and one that I am still searching for.
doug
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Die clog on the E and 4 slips
Cheers Don
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Edited by fourmack 04/23/2016 5:18 pm
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 I forgot to say nice clear photos Jim 
Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut. "Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Don, I agree with your answers. The enlargements could be better, though--they were made from the full-side shots, the only ones I took of Phil310's coin.
No. 16, later tonight, is one probably all of you keen collectors of 1859 die pairs have, but I'll bet you don't have it in this condition....
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Die clogs are a very useful diagnostic for attributing the 1859's. I didn't realize how useful they were until recently. When I first started collecting 1859's by die pairs, I mostly looked for die cracks to identify varieties, and that probably is the best place to begin. But not all varieties have die cracks, and the earliest states of all varieties will be crack free. Then I began to look for repunched letters to help me identify obverses, and comparing leaf 9 stems (after identifying the reverse group) to identify reverses. I assumed that die clogs would come and go and not really help that much with attribution, so I didn't pay much attention to them. In the last few months I've started looking for clogs and comparing them to the clogs on the "ID by obverse markers" page. (Maybe someone can post a link to that page. I haven't figured out how yet.) I recently picked up a 661 variety by noticing the right arm of the V of VICTORIA was clogged. The ebay photo wasn't good enough to see cracks or repunched letters, but I could see the clog. It did turn out to be a 661, which I needed. Dr. Haxby and Ed have given us a well organized tool with the die clog information. I would encourage others not to overlook it the way I did.
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Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut. "Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
Edited by fourmack 04/23/2016 7:12 pm
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No. 16. Remember, Marcel must hang back for 48 hrs. If that time proves too long, I'll cut it back to 24.  
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Pc59-621
Cheers Don
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I agree, Haxby 621. Repaired Stem to leaf 7.
doug
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Yes and yes, again (except Loop 7, not Stem 7).
So, this is Reverse L1 (die 1 in Reverse Group L). If Loop 7 had not been repaired, in what reverse group would this die have fallen?
Edited by JHax 04/23/2016 11:09 pm
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Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut. "Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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J (stem 9 repaired, loop 2 repaired, loop 7 wide gap, stem 10 original, stem 8 missing) M which is very hard to find has repaired stem 10 with slip onto leaf 10. Ed
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 --- still have a lot to learn--- stem on 10 got me and didn't even think to check anything else. Thanks Ed ---I am like a chicken still scratching the surface 
Cheers Don
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