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I have been looking to get my feet wet in SLQs, now that I am already immersed in SLDs and SLHDs. Apart from being beautiful coinage, I really enjoy variety hunting. This morning, I managed to win an auction for, what I thought, was a variety that I could find no information on. I have already sent an email to Gerry Fortin, but would also like to see if anyone else here might have some feedback, too. I did look on Gerry's site, and unfortunately, his SLQ site is not as complete as his SLD site, yet. First off, I imagine that this would get a "Details" coin for one or both reasons that it appears to have an older cleaning (although it might be market-acceptable) and that there are some scratches in the detail area around the tips of the arrows on the reverse. Either way, I got this for a very, very reasonable price, so I am happy with it, regardless. As to what I am finding, the only real recognized variety is the FS-301. This does not match those images, nor does it match the standard images that I have looked at. What I am seeing is, on the obverse, there is the presence of either a die break or non-pronounced Cud along the bottom rim. Also on the front, there appears to be some sort of an artifact behind the 6, and hints of one behind the 8 and 5, as well. For the reverse, note both of the "A"s in AMERICA. It appears like they may have been repunched, or there is some other sort of inclusion in and around them. These pictures are from the seller. I do not have it in-hand yet. Any feedback would definitely be appreciated, though. Thank you!   Edited by jmferris
04/29/2016 1:46 pm
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Apologies. I meant to put this in the variety subform and not the grading subforum. Could a moderator move it for me, please? Since I am here, though, my guess is a VF Details.  |
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I've misplaced my copy of the Briggs book on these. I'll try to find it and see if this is listed.
-MV
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Much appreciated! I just found out about the Briggs book last night, and am setting up searches to get my hands on a copy. Pricey little buggers, too! I've got the Dime and Half Dime book from DLRC Press, too, and am looking to adding another member to that family. |
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On the reverse, looks like the "doubling" effect may have been caused by that die break starting around 1:00.  |
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Good eye! I did not even see that. Very interesting, indeed. Thank you!
Just got a ship notification on it, so I should be able to take more detailed pictures on Tuesday (assuming none of the more-and-more common USPS delays).
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jm I'd recommend watching ebay for the Briggs book there have been 4 copies of it sold since February. The prices realized for those were less than what I paid for mine in 2014. Of course, I had been searching for a copy for a while so when I saw one I pounced on it. There are periods when there are several for sale on ebay then other times not a one to be found...keep checking. -MV |
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Thanks, MeadowviewCollector. I've already set up my Followed Search for it, and was shocked when I looked at completed listings. Seems in an auction setting, they tend to end at around $80-ish, but someone snagged a BIN for under $10 recently. All about being in the right place at the right time, I assume. Managed to pull in the Greer book for the Dimes last week for around $30, because the title of the listing was not that good. All about trying to use some of that patience I keep hearing about.  |
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Very worn dies produced the surfaces you see here: note the metal in the date, obverse rim Cuds (you saw this already), and the reverse has a die break from S2 to A3; also some metal in the reverse legend; another die crack splits IT in UNITED and runs to the wing. Wiped at some point, but not likely recently. The weak strike and late die state makes the coin look low VF when I think it's really probably higher VF. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
04/29/2016 8:52 pm
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I've located my Briggs book and opened it up to 1856. The only one that mentions a Cud on the obverse rim is 7-E. I haven't been able to locate an example labeled 7-E to see if the diagnostics match. -MV |
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I went to reply this morning, and the moment after I hit submit, my Internet went out. Hopefully, it is not an omen for how the weekend will play out. As to what I had typed before that happened... I agree, paralyse. From the reading that I have done, my understanding of most of the dies used for Liberty Series coinage of any denomination were, essentially, used until they fell apart. It definitely makes sense, when looking at the number of varieties that I've read about, and how some of them are progressive and can be traced from variety to variety. Also, agree on the grading aspect. Definitely see the old cleaning on there, especially on the reverse. Market-acceptable or not, the scratches on the reverse is not going on the reverse are not going anywhere. It almost looks like someone tried to clean that area out with a pin or a small nail. Would love to wring that person's neck. Of course, the flip side of that is that if it were not done, who knows if this specimen would have ever made its way to me. Quote:The only one that mentions a Cud on the obverse rim is 7-E. I haven't been able to locate an example labeled 7-E to see if the diagnostics match. Thank you for checking, MV. It is definitely more of a lead than I've had, so far. This morning, I figured I might just as well try emailing Larry Briggs to see if he might be able to cross reference that 7-E with the pictures of the coin, assuming that he must/might have seen examples of it. Enjoy the mystery of it all, which is part of how I spent my morning. However, that was trying my hand at Newcomb varieties for my large cents. Only thing I learned this morning, though, is that I need to get a nice loupe, because my magnifier is just not cutting it, anymore. |
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