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ID Request For Ancient Etc.

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Please identify this coin with its approx. year, name of figure w/ helmet, country, condition, and any other features worthy of note.

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 Posted 05/29/2016  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ronh308 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I have no idea, but who here sees an inspiration for the Mercury dime?
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What is the weight, diameter, and the metal content (if known)?
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physical specs.:

3.8 g

It measures 16.6 mm diam. on obverse from top of head to beneath the neck using the outer part of the interior thick line surrounding the coin.

17.55 mm diam. would be number using the small bead-like dots (instead of the interior thicker line) best shown running on the obverse between 5 - 6:30 o'clock.

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It is, or at least it is supposed to be, a Roman Republican silver denarius. Specifically, this coin from 113-112 BC. The obverse portrait is of Roma, who is almost always depicted with a winged helmet. The unusual feature of this coin is the ornate ring, or "torc", surrounding the portrait; this is apparently a reference to an ancestor of the coin-issuer having defeated a Celtic chief in hand-to-hand single combat, winning his torc (and thus obtaining his new Latin family name, Torquatus).

It's an interesting story, but the type is not one of the rarer ones in the Republican series. There are no fakes of this type listed on FORVM, either. SO I would assume it was genuine unless you have other reasons to believe otherwise.
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Was it customary for the Roman empire to mint multiple versions (varieties) of a coin for an emperor such as Roma?

For example, should one consider this coin on ebay one such similar variety or just another fake?

The reason for the question has to do with the differences between these two coins insofar as:

1) the location and spelling of the word, 'ROMA'. On my coin this word appears on the obverse and as if the 'M' and 'A' are merged together: not so for the referenced ebay coin showing four distinct letters for the emperor's name.

2) the 180 degrees difference in orientation of the horse(s) for the two coins.

3) the absence from my coin of the word 'CRAG'. Since this designation appears on the ebay listing, could that imply that emperor Roma had multiple surnames or associated territorial names linked with his name?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-ANTESTIUS...AOSwintXShEe

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there are hundreds of different varieties..

here is mine
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and Roma isn't an emperor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_(mythology)
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Rome was a republic until 31bc when Augustus defeated the forces of Marc Anthony and became the first emperor of Rome. Prior to that time several motifs are used including gods, animals, and famous people, often the distinguished relatives of the moneyers in charge of the coinage. After that date coins usually have an emperor or member of his family on the front with other motifs including "action shots" (emperor sacrificing), gods and other motifs on the back.

One exception to this that comes quickest to mind is the quadrans of Claudius which sports a beehive on the front of the coin.

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