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June 2016 RCM Releases

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 Posted 06/01/2016  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It's strange that I received a paper copy of the June release in my postal box prior to getting an email


Happens almost every month for me. Received booklet Monday and e-mail today.

They must have made the capsule for the Maze coin from watch grade materials to expect it to hold up to a moving part and excess handling (if the owner is actually going to play with it).

But the language is vague. Saying it's "important" to the design team that the coin surface, paint and capsule not be scratched is not the same as guarantying there will be no damage. That verbiage also only appears in the MC newsletter as a quote of a Product Manager, not on the product page of mint.ca. But really, who would play repeatedly with such a simplistic toy? Will be interesting to see how well these things survive shipping.

I also doubt any self respecting gamer would be attracted to this one though older buyers might like the nostalgia appeal of their childhood playthings.

IMO, the bottom line is it's just too simple to be a toy and too out there to be a collector coin but that's the great thing about the new RCM strategy; throw out every idea possible and someone will buy it.
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RCM made another 100 available in their website. I can't believe this is a Crown Corporation.



Nothing deceptive about it, to assume the entire RCM stock is previewable in order to be ordered online is presumptuous. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes but it's likely RCM estimates selling streams which include phone orders, dealer orders, mint store orders aside from online orders, in addition to remainders not yet minted, and adjusts volumes accordingly.
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 Posted 06/01/2016  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But really, who would play repeatedly with such a simplistic toy?


The ones with multiple balls inside likely offer greater challenge. $5.35.
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 Posted 06/01/2016  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$5.35 is great but no way I'm paying 59 cents for shipping from Hong Kong. That's pure gouging.
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$5.35 is great but no way I'm paying 59 cents for shipping from Hong Kong. That's pure gouging.







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I also doubt any self respecting gamer would be attracted to this one though older buyers might like the nostalgia appeal of their childhood playthings.


I think it'd be mostly appealing to the young generation. Reason......older folks enjoyed the liberty and freedom of running free and frolicking around the neighbourhood. The one-person type games were something that one mostly did riding in the back of a car on a family vacation when the parents wanted the kids to shut up and behave. It wasn't the preferred way to occupy time....mostly boring in the sense it meant there was nothing better to do.

Whereas in recent decades safety risks, smaller families, working parents, etc have placed children where they're alone and at home much more and games to them have come to represent "fun" - the reason for the huge popularity of online and console games - call them babysitters or what one wants but that's just how it is. And why young adults likely see "game coins" to be appealing.....
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Little of column A and little of column B I think.

Based on my Mint reps video, the target market is gifts to attract new collectors. So sell the nostalgia to the older folks (grandparents) to give to the young folks. Of course, grandparents always mean well but rarely get 'good' gifts for the grandkids.

Any kid I know would look at that coin, and think it was pretty lame, then pick up their phone and play a real game.

Anyway, I'll stick to tradition and get the Tiger and Dragon coin. It looks very detailed and well done. Looks even better than the 2007 square holed coin.
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Looks even better than the 2007 square holed coin.


I've not seen the 2007 in hand but I must admit that I've had half an eye out for a good buy ever since Commems wrote about it in this thread:

https://goccf.com/t/252119

Such an interesting, well-written description, perhaps someone from RCM deemed it worthy of a pair? Seriously!
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Great write-up on the 2007 coin. Interestingly enough, that coin had a limit of 1 per household from the RCM but the new one, with much lower mintage, has a limit of 2.

http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/8-fin....V08E8uT2bb0

Does anyone have a theory as to why the 2016 coin is only 20.86g versus 25.18g for the 2007? They are almost the same diameter (36.07mm versus 36mm) so why the weight reduction? Atkins? Jenny Craig?
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Does anyone have a theory as to why the 2016 coin is only 20.86g versus 25.18g for the 2007?



It appears to be Shrinkflation, first associated with the gradual but steady downsizing of the chocolate bar!

http://www.cnbc.com/2014/04/09/shri...n-sized.html

Perhaps in the future NCLT will be made so paper thin that a special laser light could be shone through it, projecting some sort of image on the wall. Of course that would probably sell well too....
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So it seems, only the gimmick coins hold their value. I assume we haven't seen the last of the maze type coins.
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 Posted 06/01/2016  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Any kid I know would look at that coin, and think it was pretty lame, then pick up their phone and play a real game.


Impossible to disagree.
This in't a game, just gimmicky made coin. Maze with painted Maple Leaf....such lame idea.

Btw, as a kid, I had a "Cube Maze" toy - it required some effort to finish and was a fun.
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Does anyone have a theory as to why the 2016 coin is only 20.86g versus 25.18g for the 2007?

I believe it is because the 2016 specifications are correct and the 2007 specifications were misstated.

I've wondered about this issue before but never got around to weighing the 2007 coin. It does not seem possible for the coin to be 25.18 grams considering it is essentially the same size as the SDs of the time but with a hole punched out in the middle.

I'll try to weigh mine tonight and report back what I find.


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We are talking $114.95 here for the maze coin. Who cares if it goes up or down? Seriously, the essays composed here about the nonsense of this coin is actually quite telling of the snobbery associated with so called collectors of any kind.

Why on earth are you here "bashing" this coin? I have stated this before as a newcomer to this site. All this negativity is such a turn off. Then you all wonder why NCLT is going down the tube. Well, because of discussions like this.

Funny thing though, out of all the coins that came out this month, this maze coin is the most talked about right now.
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 Posted 06/01/2016  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Why on earth are you here "bashing" this coin?

Folks are stating their opinions, they are entitled. Just as you are.

I agree that some of the comments made here are detrimental to the hobby (especially when strong negative opinions are stated as if they are absolute fact). I reply to some of them in an attempt to temper them, but tend to ignore most. I prefer to focus my posts elsewhere.

I don't think the primary reason NCLT collecting is suffering at the moment is because of discussions here on CCF. I believe it is more a result of too many world mints churning out too many coins (many of questionable design quality) at too high of an original retail price. At some point, there simply are not enough collectors available to purchase/absorb it all. Also, with such a high frequency of new releases, I believe many collectors "forget" about previous releases fairly quickly and move on to the latest coins. I feel obliged to point out that these are not just my opinions; the same or similar have been posted here by others.

I'm happy for you if you like the maze coin and have been able to buy it for your collection - it's a great feeling to acquire something you like! I hope you enjoy owning it for many years. IMO, we all need to define our own parameters for our collections and allow others to define theirs without being critical of them. For now, I am choosing for my collection to remain "maze-less" and am OK with that decision.

Happy collecting!

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 Posted 06/01/2016  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Btw, as a kid, I had a "Cube Maze" toy - it required some effort to finish and was a fun.


You are probably referring to The Rubic's Cube. My 10 year-old grandson had one with him just the other day..... along with his iPod. I thought to myself, isn't that interesting they hold such intrigue through the generations.
Invented in 1974, claimed to be the world's best selling toy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik%27s_Cube
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