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Bedrock of the Community
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Just because you do an overlay and it matches DOES NOT mean that it is an authentic specimen. Do you actually realize how many of these fakes are floating around? Many of them have been faithfully reproduced as souvenirs with genuine details but the difference lies with the minting methods, dimensions, and composition. You wouldn't even need all the fingers on one hand to count the number of people on this board who could competently authenticate a Continental dollar(BTW, I am not one of them).
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Good points biokemist6. Yes, I realize there are many counterfeits running around. But for $25 I thought it would be cool even to have a replica. It's a gamble sometimes buying when the opportunity strikes. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Haven't you ever wished you'd have bought that certain coin when you had the chance, only to go back later and it was gone - and you never saw another one like it again at that price? I know we all have. That's part of the glory and the fun of it, I think. I've got several coins that I know were bad decisions, but I've got a few, a few, that weren't so dumb afterall.
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I took my supposed Conti curency to a dealer today, and he took one look at it and said "fake". He flipped it on the counter, and said, yes, definitely fake. Well, I don't know. I may get a second opinion, but he was pretty discouraging. I guess dealers are like that, especially if they are buying your stuff. But I wasn't selling him anything. I also showed him my 1803 Half Cent (scratched - his words in parenthesis), 1907S $5 gold piece (VF but wouldn't have it graded), 1865 3-cent nickel (MS 60 to MS 62 but wouldn't have it graded), 1851O 3-cent silver toned (damaged), 1921D Mercury dime (cleaned and probably dug up from somewhere), 1858O Half Dime (scratched, maybe VF), and what I thought was a beautiful 1864 2-Cent piece (cleaned). I also brought him a beautiful 1835 Bust Half Dollar (scratched). I didn't ask him what he'd give me for them, because I wasn't selling, I just thought I'd get an expect opinion, but he wasn't really giving me that. He was giving me an opinion if I wanted to sell them. What step should I take next, do any of you think? Just put the coins back into the safe deposit box, or get rid of them? |
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See those coins I mentioned I took to the dealer here: http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/...ab_my_albumsHe was probably right on them, the more I thik about it. He may have saved me some money by not having them graded, but aren't some of them pretty nice? |
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My advise to you johnny would be to take it to the next major show where PCGS or NGC graders can evaluate it. They would know in under 5 seconds if it was fake. Since you are in Canada, your only option is to send it in.
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New Member
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If you look at a coin over 200 years old under a magnifier how would it look like?THANKS
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's been 4 months since your first post and you're still trying to determine the authenticity of your coin ?  |
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New Member
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 Do you have a problem with me asking question?1sikevo |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This seems like it's going in the direction of the 'If you have to ask, you don't really want to know' type of question. I have subscribed to this topic, waiting for a response from you that you've taken the next logical step in having your coin authenticated, i.e. sending it to a grading service. Is that going to happen, do you think? It doesn't seem like you're getting the answer you want on the internet.
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New Member
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No I don't have a problem with people's opinion I just can't stand some of the negativity with some people's answers, after all were all here to help each other out.thanks
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Valued Member
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A higher resolution photo would be nice too.
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Bedrock of the Community
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No I don't have a problem with people's opinion I just can't stand some of the negativity with some people's answers, after all were all here to help each other out.thanks I don't think I would be complaining about other peoples negativity. Quote:
Sorry but that is a cast fake. And yes there were a LOT of fake Continental dollars made around the time of the centennial and for decades afterward. For every genuine coin there are literally tens of thousands of fakes. The genuine were well made coins which were professionally engraved. The rings on the reverse were strong, even and well formed, not rough and ragged as seen on your coin. Johnnydee's reply Quote:
You have a right to your opinion, but if you have done a little bit of research you would have known that the machine wear(sic) quite crude and man power(ed).There is also proof that the original were offset and and rough and ragged to me that would make more sense than your explanation I think that the counterfeit would have been more like what you are talking about.Your talking about a coin that was made in a critical war time but thanks for your opinion. Edited by Conder101
06/22/2008 02:14 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I also have one of these coins laying around here somewhere. But I sure don't think mine is real because if I did, it would have been shipped out to a TPG (and I dislike TPG's) a long time ago. Johnny, I don't think anyone has been trying to be negative. You asked for peoples opinions and got them, you may not like then but they are just opinions. You just seem to not want to take the advice that has been given to you. If you still think the coin is real, you can send it to PCGS and use their new "GENUINE" service for $100 + shipping and they will authenticate your coin. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Johnnydee, I'm not a negative person at all. If you read my other posts, I'm very open to new discoveries. But you are the one that is stubborn. You keep asking people about possible authenticity but refuse to do it yourself by submitting it to a TPG. You keep ignoring all reasonable advises and opinions but keep insisting that your coin is real, even though you have not taken any steps to get it verified independently by experts. We are not haters. You asked for opinions and you have it. As much as you wanted to hear oohs and aahs, you should also be open to constructive critics. The ball has been in your court to show the doubters beyond a reasonable doubt that your coin is genuine but all you have done is prolong the mystery and attack anyone who cast doubt. Look at the guy with the silver 1972 quarter. He quickly had it verified that it was genuine and no one has had any questions regarding it' authenticity since then. It's time to put up or shut up. |
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