Ebay - Sellers Of Fake/Counterfeit Ancient Chinese Sellers

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TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 9:37 pm I got permission from Bobby to make this thread as his contacts aren't knowledgable enough in this field to make a solid determination. I will be compiling sellers of counterfeit Chinese cast coinage into this thread. You all can make submissions as well, but this thread is specifically for pre-1912 Chinese cast coinage. I will start with the seller best66666. He/she has been dealing in counterfeits for years unchecked. Most of the pieces have the glossy patina that I worn of. As a clincher, all pieces are guaranteed genuine, even though they are fakes. There are some authentic coins in there, but they are common, low-grade pieces. BEWARE THIS SELLER! http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk...kw=&_sacat=0 An independent expert made a blog post about this seller: http://fakecash.blogspot.com/2016/0...oins_14.html ------------------------------------------------ Another counterfeit retailer. This one is outside of ebay, but just as dangerous. EVERY coin in the inventory is fake. BUYER BEWARE! http://www.chancientcoins.com Independent expert on this website as well: http://fakecash.blogspot.com/2016/0...oinscom.html ------------------------------------------------------ angelia79099 Everything is a HUGE fanasy issue. Nothing is genuine. http://www.ebay.com/sch/angelia7909...sid=p2047675. ------------------------------------------------------ amazingitems3000 I see only one genuine lot of coins (the Wu Zhu pair). Everything else has the fat-character look, as well as bad patina. Some fantasy issues are thrown in. http://www.ebay.com/sch/Coins-Paper..._nkw=Chinese ------------------------------------------------------ wenke799 Lots of fake modern stuff as well as fake cash. The cash has bad patinas, wrong calligraphy styles, and some fantasy issues. There are some fake NGC slabs as well. http://www.ebay.com/sch/wenke799/m....l2562Chinese ------------------------------------------------------ museumscollection Everything is fake. The patinas are all horrible, the calligraphy is wrong on many issues, and there are many modern charms. http://www.ebay.com/sch/museumscoll...047675.l2562 ------------------------------------------------------ anhuiren10 Mostly charms and fantasy issues, but some counterfeits. Many of the character strokes are thick and lifeless. Patina is uniform throughout the inventory, a major red flag. http://www.ebay.com/sch/anhuiren10/...047675.l2562 ------------------------------------------------------ jameklinge_4 The rims give these away. The should be fat, but these have a slight roundness to them. http://www.ebay.com/sch/jameklinge_4/m.html ------------------------------------------------------ becksent1 Lots of charms and fantasy issues, obvious by their large size (40+ mm). Many have the light green + tan patina I warn about. http://www.ebay.com/sch/becksent1/m...047675.l2562 ------------------------------------------------------ chenchong20111105 Lots of fantasies and charms. The patina is uniform throughout all of the coins in the listings. http://www.ebay.com/sch/chenchong20...047675.l2562 ------------------------------------------------------ bcculture This seller specializes in counterfeit Asian antiquities. There are lots of coin counterfeits and some off-metal fantasies. There are some spade coins that are very well done (and even have some pin holes in them), but they too are victim to the condemning glossy patina. The patina on many of the other coins is less convincing, and the character formation and overall style of the coin is wrong. http://www.ebay.com/sch/bcculture/m...047675.l2562 ------------------------------------------------------ che.ca2015 Deceptive seller with many counterfeits and fantasies with a sprinkling of genuine coins. There are some counterfeits of struck coins as well. The counterfeits are all advertised as genuine. http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk...ina&_sacat=0 Edited by TypeCoin971793 07/31/2016 2:49 pm Report this Post to the Staff

TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 9:39 pm Another counterfeit retailer. This one is outside of ebay, but just as dangerous. EVERY coin in the inventory is fake. BUYER BEWARE! http://www.chancientcoins.com Independent expert on this website as well: http://fakecash.blogspot.com/2016/0...oinscom.html Edited by TypeCoin971793 07/30/2016 9:39 pm Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 9:40 pm Good to know, thanks for posting this. Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 9:42 pm angelia79099 Everything is a HUGE fanasy issue. Nothing is genuine. http://www.ebay.com/sch/angelia7909...047675.l2562 Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 9:45 pm amazingitems3000 I see only one genuine lot of coins (the Wu Zhu pair). Everything else has the fat-character look, as well as bad patina. Some fantasy issues are thrown in. http://www.ebay.com/sch/Coins-Paper..._nkw=Chinese Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 9:51 pm wenke799 Lots of fake modern stuff as well as fake cash. The cash has bad patinas, wrong calligraphy styles, and some fantasy issues. There are some fake NGC slabs as well. http://www.ebay.com/sch/wenke799/m....047675.l2562 Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 9:53 pm museumscollection Everything is fake. The patinas are all horrible, the calligraphy is wrong on many issues, and there are many modern charms. http://www.ebay.com/sch/museumscoll...047675.l2562 Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 9:56 pm anhuiren10 Mostly charms and fantasy issues, but some counterfeits. Many of the character strokes are thick and lifeless. Patina is uniform throughout the inventory, a major red flag. http://www.ebay.com/sch/anhuiren10/...047675.l2562 Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 9:59 pm This thread would have fit better in the sticky section on ancient coins, too difficult to move now so it's OK here. Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 9:59 pm jameklinge_4 The rims give these away. The should be fat, but these have a slight roundness to them. http://www.ebay.com/sch/jameklinge_4/m.html Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 10:03 pm becksent1 Lots of charms and fantasy issues, obvious by their large size (40+ mm). Many have the light green + tan patina I warn about. http://www.ebay.com/sch/becksent1/m...047675.l2562 Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 10:04 pm chenchong20111105 Lots of fantasies and charms. The patina is uniform throughout all of the coins in the listings. http://www.ebay.com/sch/chenchong20...047675.l2562 Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 10:09 pm bcculture This seller specializes in counterfeit Asian antiquities. There are lots of coin counterfeits and some off-metal fantasies. There are some spade coins that are very well done (and even have some pin holes in them), but they too are victim to the condemning glossy patina. The patina on many of the other coins is less convincing, and the character formation and overall style of the coin is wrong. http://www.ebay.com/sch/bcculture/m...047675.l2562 And really? Coins minted 1500 years apart being found in the same hoard with the string mostly intact? Not a chance. http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Chi...AMXQRPRTITsJ Edited by TypeCoin971793 07/30/2016 10:12 pm Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 10:15 pm Sorry echizento. I was hoping a topic on specifically fake Chinese coins world be more helpful than adding to the sticky. If you feel otherwise, feel free to move these messages to the sticky. Or I could stop now and continue in the sticky. Edited by TypeCoin971793 07/30/2016 10:16 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 10:25 pm This should be a very helpful resource. Thomas, may I recommend that in addition to each new reply/addition you also continually update/edit the first entry that starts the thread at the top...and maintain a master list of these sellers there, right at the start? Edited by Kamnaskires 07/30/2016 10:26 pm Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/30/2016 10:33 pm I thought about it, but after 24 hours, I will not be able to edit the header post. I figured consistency might be best. Perhaps a mod can help? Edited by TypeCoin971793 07/30/2016 10:34 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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