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Bedrock of the Community
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Picked up one more. Thoughts on grade and problems? TPG grade and price paid in 48. Thanks!   Added pics from different angle that brings out flaws better. Notably there is a fingerprint in the left obverse field. Cheek still looks pretty good.   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
Edited by numismatic student 04/12/2017 11:47 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I wanna say 66PL possibly DMPL, either way a beauty.
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Pillar of the Community
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Minimum 66 possible pl. beauty
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm gonna go out on a wonky limb and say it's MS-65 DMPL. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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MS-65, possibly DMPL. That light fingerprint might keep it from higher. Gorgeous coin!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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Wow. At least 66PL. What a beauty.
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Bedrock of the Community
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MS-66, and either PL or DMPL (I cannot tell which).
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Bedrock of the Community
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I paid $406 which I think is about wholesale for a 64dmpl. Hopefully it is better when it shows up at my door. Still amazing that you can buy a coin 132 year old cartwheel in this condition for this kind of money. These sold for more when I started collecting. 
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
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That is a undergraded dmpl, it may be worthwhile to try reconsideration.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks AO. I'll give it some thought after I examine it in hand.
65dmpl is $1,000 and 66dmpl is $3,500. Maybe I can win the coin slab lottery. lol
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
Edited by numismatic student 04/14/2017 9:09 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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From those pics, I agree. Looks under graded to me. Keep us updated if you do send it back for regrade!
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Bedrock of the Community
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looking at only your second pics I would have said 64-65 PL. You can't judge DMPL from pictures alone because it is a measurement of depth, not just contrast, that's why I don't attempt to distinguish DMPL from PL when offering grade opinions.
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