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You Vs. NGC: 1875-S 20 Cent Piece

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I got this coin for my birthday a few weeks ago. The reverse is a little dark, but overall, it looks great in my type set. What do you think NGC gave her?

You-Vs.-NGC:-1875-S-20-Cent-Piece

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VF-25. Has the MPD on the obverse and probably the RPM on the reverse. Not a premium variety but cool. Looks nice! Happy belated!
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Agree. The obverse is really nice looking with very clean fields. Happy birthday!
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The reverse almost pushes this to a 25, but I still think it's closer to 20.

Fantastic birthday present and a wonderful addition to your type set.
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That is a fantastic original coin that I wish I owned! Congrats. I think it is a solid VF-20 and nice and original. I agree with bandsdean re: the misplaced date and S/S variety. You'll see part of a digit in the denticles below the date.
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Guessing it's in the 15-20 range.
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I'm at 20 as well, but admit I've never liked grading this coin.
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Nice coin, they probably said F15, hopefully VF20
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It's a really nice coin. You adopt certain instincts grading all of the other Seated Liberty denominations and it's difficult to shift gears on this one.
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Agree with coinfrog. you have to get a different mindset to grade these 20's, but boy are they special!
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VF20
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Probably so. Can't offhand think of another US coin that would grade VF without "Liberty" showing!
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I'm @ F15 but the Twenty Cent Pieces regularly get VF grades even with no LIBERTY showing so a ZVF 20 would not be out of the realm from a TPG.
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vf 20
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Probably so. Can't offhand think of another US coin that would grade VF without "Liberty" showing!


LIBERTY on shield is raised on this issue and incuse in all other Seated coinage. Agree it takes a little bit to adjust.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Good point, NS.

I've always thought the reverse was easy to grade on these, kinda like the Barber quarters and halves. There is such exact circulation rub on the eagle consistent with each grade.

Until you get a soft strike. Then you just scream.
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