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2017 D Lincoln Cent Doubled Die Obverse ?

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 Posted 11/08/2017  3:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add centavo69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
i need help with this 2017d Lincoln Cent . I am not sure if its a doubled die or not ...what the experts see ?
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 Posted 11/08/2017  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Again, not a Doubled Die. Maybe MD or Die Deterioration Doubling. You should check out Crazyb0's book Iding for dummies. It will help you dushtingish between real hub doubling and other forms of doubling
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 Posted 11/08/2017  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add centavo69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so . I have one question MR,Errers and Varietys. what is the crack or line or divisions I see on the letters and what causes it ?
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Centavo, a good question! What you see as "notches" aren't a doubled event. It is actually a product of Die Deterioration. As the metal continues on its outward movement these devices are beginning to split, being stretched. If it were a doubling it would appear at the corners anyway.

There is other indications of deterioration, see how the date and mintmark have the angled sides? There it is.

Note also the L B E of LIBERTY, across their bottom bars are many nicks!
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Take a look at Wexler's site. When you look at the DDO's there, note the devices on LIBERTY are wider than a normal coin.
http://doubleddie.com/2318537.html
Getting to know what a DDO looks like on these will have you find them easier. So study the whole section on the Shelds cents. You will remember how the devices are affected and be able to seek what you are trying to find.
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If you don't believe us, then send it to sir wexler and watch him say it's not a doubled die... Either way you do it, that's not a doubled die.... just saying
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I have no reason not to believe what you guys are telling me something .MR .Coopergold . I really appreciate your comments and help ... and if I asked its just because I want to learn more . I ll be posting ,asking and studing until I feel 100 % sure . when I publish something about a coin .if you guys dont mind. hahahah
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The negative/inverted color images tell us more of the story. Note them again. You can see that the coin has a lot of MD on the devices. The LIBERTY also has a lot of MD issue. This may have caused the issue with the markings you are pointing to with the black lines on an earlier picture.
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