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Pillar of the Community
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Rest in Peace
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Because they are concentric, yep.
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Pillar of the Community
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I thought lathe lines were only on the surfaces - not the devices! ?  And just noticed, on the 1st picture they aren't exactly circular nor concentric.
Edited by Mark1959 02/24/2018 7:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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The lines are actually concentric. I place the coin centered on my stereo zoom microscope around the diameter of the coin. I then zoomed in down towards the center of the coin. The arc lines are exactly concentric. I think that the lines appear nonconcentric due to the area that they show up in is not concentric.
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Pillar of the Community
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Found this on the internet: Over the past several years there have been various reports by collectors of having found Lincoln cents with raised concentric lines (marks) on the obverse or reverse face of US coinage. First identified on 1996-D Lincoln cents, what was frequently observed were soft concentric lines that became stronger toward the perimeter of the coin, yet did not go into the devices. So yours should not have lines in the devices! But who knows?
Edited by Mark1959 02/24/2018 8:03 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I believe that part about not being on the devices is outdated. The lines on the 2010 1C LL-001 on that same website are clearly on the device.
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Pillar of the Community
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So lathe lines with die scratches in different directions? Looks like it. 
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Bedrock of the Community
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I sent Mike a note on this one. Could you provide a full image of this coin? That way we can see direction better. (big as possible would be a great help) I was leaning towards planchet damage/lines? Quote:
To:richard.cooper Feb 24 at 8:16 PM I'm not sure what this is. They're not lathe marks or die scratches.
Mike
Edited by coop 02/24/2018 10:48 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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i am going to say striations. Lathe lines should not run to the rim.
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Pillar of the Community
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I took a decent photo of entire reverse but when I ran it through the optimizer it destroyed the details. I did take one more photo of an additional area. 
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Pillar of the Community
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OK one last photo. All of these lines are in a just one narrow band around coin. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Much better pics. I withdraw my earlier comment. Looking back I now see what I missed in your other pics.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Without a doubt, those are definitely Lathe Lines that weren't polished off the die. Great find!
Errers and Varietys.
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United States
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Why isn't this one listed in error varieties. I have this one and a nice one on 2000 on reverse. I have numerous 1996d lathe lines but still looking for the 1993d reverse one. Congrats on your find.
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Rest in Peace
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LEARNING TIME!Do you really know what is meant by a "lathe line? Misconceptions such as have been stated in this thread show some dont. Lets consider the definition: Quote: Definition: These concentric rings are produced by a lathe which shapes the cone-shaped face of the unfinished working die. The cone is supposed to be polished smooth before hubbing. If polishing is omitted or inadequate, the surface will remain covered by concentric lathe marks which will not be erased by subsequent hubbing. What this means is this is on the surface of a working die BEFORE the design is placed on the coin. The die face is BEVELED, that means it is slightly higher in the center than the outside. The milling lathe does this taper. It is then ground down and smoothed out before the design is "squeezed" int the die through the hubbing process. If any of these deep lines aren't removed, anywhere on the die face, they will be transferred to the coin design. Mostly seen on the die surface(field level) but sometimes in side the incused design(high points) also. It is seemingly less common for the central portion to retain any lathe lines since that is the high point of the die and is addressed heavily in the smoothing process. So it IS unusual to have the lines show up on the shield on the OP's coin, but more frequently around the outside.
Edited by Crazyb0 09/09/2018 3:50 pm
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