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1943 LWC Series (P, D & S) - Grading Thoughts Please

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Hello CCF,

I included pictures of three 1943 Lincoln Cents (P-D-S). Please share your grading opinions.

It was challenging to take decent pictures of the 1943-P. It's super shiny/reflective so I took multiple pictures at different angles.

If you notice any error varieties/die markers please let me know. I will/can start another topic in the error/variety forum. Just thought I'd kill two birds with one stone.

The 1943-P could have a DDO or DDR. Some of the devices seem extra thick. 1943-D/D (don't think it's there) and the 1943-S is known to have a DDO. I noticed some doubling on the date but it could be mechanical.

Your feedback is appreciated.

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The first two seem to have a grainy surface texture. Is that just the photos, or is that the texture in hand?

The last one (1943-P) has been plated. Unfortunately, most of its numismatic value has been lost.
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Agree sort of odd grainy coloring on the first two - not like MS coins to me. The '43 is definitely plated.



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Also . Kinda odd puppies. But

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SilverDollar2017: That is the texture in hand. Strange, although maybe the steel is starting to corrode.

These coins were sealed in a cardboard insert with a plastic cover. I don't think there were ever removed (until recently). Here are a few more pictures.

I'm going to post the 1944's that were in the set soon.
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They are most likely all plated,even the grainy looking one.
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The 43-P is definitely replated/reprocessed. The mirror finish is a dead giveaway.

The 43-P and D grainy finish looks kinda strange but may be natural. I have never seen reprocessed steelies end up with a rough surface like that.

Uncirculated ORIGINAL steel cents will have a silvery uniform frosted appearance. That appearance cannot be replicated with the replating process that has been used for the last 60+ years.
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The first two look like they could have corrosion or environmental damage. That's not the original texture of steel cents.
I can show you photos of my original 1943 steel cent if you want.
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Could the grainy ones actually be spray paint?
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The S&D appear to have been cleaned, looks like acid damage. The P has been replated. Personally, I'd junk all 3 of them.
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