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How Far Back Can We Go? Fifth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

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I think we are getting pretty close to stalling on the this thread, but hopefully not. For today, here is a Schilling from the German Duchy of Pomerania (Damm mint) dated AD 1494:


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Nice coin! I'm hoping to add one of this type to my collection so I can continue to play with you guys in the late 1400s. As best I can tell, 1491 and 1493-95 are years with no Brabant coins.

What happened to the poster with the great pre-1500 collection on the last edition
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@louie has left the building.
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Here is a Half Schwertgroschen from the German City State of Saxony (Freiberg mint) dated AD 1492:

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Need a 1493 for today (pretty sure you've got one of those, too )
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Oops my bad, but thanks for setting me straight @tdz! I'll have to post that Half Schwertgroschen again tomorrow.

In the meanwhile, here is a Half Groschen from the German Archbishopric of Mainz dated AD 1493:


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@louie has left the building.
My impression was that a better description would be "@louie was kicked out of the building", but yes, pretty much.
(To be fair, considering their repetitive attempts at circumventing CCF email rules in the years preceding their brief Fourth Edition activity, it was probably going to happen sooner or later.)

The tricky dates that we might get stuck on are 1486 (@Zohar444 jumped up with theirs in the Fourth Edition, but hadn't been active lately) and 1473 (the now-missing @louie had the only example in the Fourth Edition); I've been told that a coin from 1480 (also only represented in Fourth Edition by @louie) had since been acquired by an active member.


I'm pre-emptively looking into dated 15th and 14th century Islamic coins, with hopes of some day advancing, if not the Fifth, then the Sixth Edition; though so far my search had given much more results for the 14th century (Golden Horde in particular) than the 15th, and getting this thread even to 1400 doesn't sound very likely.
But I think by that point I might as well write a general "One From Every Affordable Year" into my bucket list... and start figuring out my actual coverage of the last 6-7 centuries (to have a reliable list of which post-1500 years I'm still missing, and to avoid getting too many coins of the same pre-1500 year).

(One option I have considered: trying to post at least one coin on every day of the Sixth Edition, as far back as I can afford, with pre-arranged photos. My current next gap after 2020 appears to be 1850 [then 1847, 1845, 1844, 1839, 1829, about twenty others up to 1750, and past that I'm missing more than I have], but I hope to get rid of it [and the next few] by the time the Sixth Edition could get that far.)

As far as I can tell, my next dated coin is from 1334, which we... probably won't make it to within this thread.
I distinctly recall having gotten something from the 15th century, but can't think of anything in particular.
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1492 -- Duchy of Gelderland / Malines, double briquet:
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Nice one @pep! Here is a Half Schwertgroschen from the German City State of Saxony (Freiberg mint) dated AD 1492 (again):


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I've been told that a coin from 1480 had since been acquired by an active member.

That would be great. I had two attempts at it this year. In one instance, a web search turned up an 1480 double briquet on V-Coins for what I thought was a pretty reasonable price, but it turned out it had already sold (maybe this is the one a CCF member got?). Then there was one in the October Kuenker auction. I also bid on a 1493 Hildesheim sechsling at that auction, but didn't win.
I have my ugliest contribution today, this 1492 briquet from Brabant (I had thought somebody else also has this coin, but maybe it's from another year). Very worn, some rust-like corrosion/deposits. All that's missing is a hole for it to have REAL character . But at least the 9Z in the date is visible. Nice that we have three different coins today for such an early year.
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That would be great. I had two attempts at it this year. In one instance, a web search turned up an 1480 double briquet on V-Coins for what I thought was a pretty reasonable price, but it turned out it had already sold (maybe this is the one a CCF member got?).


There's a 1480 double vuurijzer from Brabant available on MA Shops right now. The date is in poor shape, however.
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here is 1492 WITH hole

Brabant, Brussels mint (lion)
Philip the Fair 1482-1506
double groot 1492 (= 1 penny)
Fire iron
Literature: Van Gelder / Hoc 98-1
PHS + ARCHIDVX + AVSTRIE + BVRGUNDIE + BR
PHILIPPUS ARCHIDUX AUSTRIÆ BURGUNDIÆ BRABANTIÆ
Philips, Archduke of Austria Burgundy Brabant
BENEDIC + HEREDITATI + TVE + ANNO + DNI + 1492
blessed be your heritag e, anno domini 1492


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Lithuania
half gross
ND (minted between 1492-1506)
Alexander I Jagiellon (1461-1506)
MONºALEXANDRI
MAGNIºDUCºLITUANIÆ
Kopicki # 3126
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Alexander de Jagiellonczyk (Alexander van Polen)
(1461-1506)
Polish grosz
no date, minted 1492-1505
mint: Krakau
MONETA:REGIS:POLONIE
ALEXANDER:DEI:G:REX:
Literature : Kopicki 389
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Jhon Albrecht I (1492-1501)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_I_Albert
no date (1942-1501)
MONETA ALBERT I
moneta albertus I
REGIS POLONIE
Kingdom of Poland

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