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 Posted 12/29/2018  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Guys!

Following on with the Silver 1/2 Rupee = 8 Annas.

1/2 Rupee KM#521/522...24mm diameter....5.8 grams....Edge reeded...Silver .917

Calcutta Mint...No Mintmark.
1911 KM#521(Pig coin)...1912-1916....1921-1927....1929-1930....1933-1934...1936....KM#522
Bombay Mint...Raised dot below bottom flower.
1912-1914...1916-1919....1922-1926.....1928....1936....KM#522

Key date coin..1914 Bombay with lowest mintage 903,377
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NOTE..As you can see there were no coins minted in 1931-1932, but apparently there were dies made for the year 1932 and supposedly the '2' was overstruck with a '3'...These coins being referenced as a 1933/2 date coin and IF they exist are extremely rare!. I've never seen one of these coins in the real but have seen a few images of coins pertaining to be it. Here's one, but I'm still not convinced!...Any thoughts?
https://www.NGCcoin.com/boards/topi...e-over-date/
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Note.. From 1919 to 1920, due again to the increased price of silver, a new Cupro-Nickel 8 Annas coin was minted to replace the 1/2 Rupee. I will present the 8 Annas in the next post...

Here is my example..1919 Bombay 1/2 Rupee..KM#522

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 Posted 12/31/2018  08:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent information again Paul. I am not convinced of the 3/2 BUT that is certainly how it is labelled.
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Thanks scopru!

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I am not convinced of the 3/2 BUT that is certainly how it is labelled.

Yep! All references have this type listed but there never seems to be an image to back it up thats clear?

I must admit there is something definitely going on with the last 3 on the PCGS coin ?...
There does seem to be a horizontal line at the base of the 3 but the diagonal line of the 2 marked in blue doesn't seem to be there? There is also a definite difference between the two 3s' as the central horizontal V between the two radii is much closer to the top and protrudes much more horizontally.

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Nice graphic. And agreed - something occurred just having a tough time "seeing" the 3/2.
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OK Moving onto the Cupro-Nickel 8 Annas = 1/2 Rupee..

8 Annas = 26mm diameter....7.8gr...Edge plain....Cupro=Nickel...KM#520
Along each outer side of the reverse is the value written in one of the four native languages Urdu (top), Telugu (bottom), Nagari (left) and Bengali (right).

Note...These Cupro-Nickel coins were introduced in 1919, due to the increased price in silver, to replace the silver 1/2 Rupee and were only minted for two years 1919-1920. It was disliked by the populace and the government soon realised it was being heavily faked! It was discontinued in 1920, although remaining as legal tender until 1924.
The silver 1/2 Rupee was again re-introduced in 1921...

Calcutta Mint...No Mintmark.KM#520
1919..(Mintage 2,979,980)
1920 (Proof coin only)

Bombay Mint....Mintmark raised dot on reverse below Teluga script..KM#520
1919..Mintage 1,400,000
1920..Mintage 1,000,000

key date coin 1920 Bombay mint with lowest mintage 1,000,000

Here is my example...1919 Bombay 8 Annas..Mintage 1,400,000..KM#520
Has slight wood graining on the obverse which I really like but doesn't look as strong in hand...But not everyones cup of tea!

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Although the mintage of the 8 Annas is large enough, this denomination is still quite difficult to find in collector markets such as Australia.

I eventually found an example for a reasonable price, in about the same condition as the example pictured. It wasn't the subject of my highest priority searches, but it still took me two decades to find one. Mine is also a 1919 Bombay.

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As far as the (then) high price of silver is concerned, The Sydney branch of The Royal Mint struck Shillings in 1921, with a small star above the date with intent of striking them in a lesser fineness of silver, but in fact, that didn't happen.
The 1921 Star above date is one of the keys of Australian silver coinage.

The subsequent fall in the silver price after 1920 helps to explain why the striking of a silver 1/2 Anna was resumed, and the striking of the cupronickel 8 Annas was discontinued.
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Excellent post Paul and some good add on info sel.
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Although the mintage of the 8 Annas is large enough, this denomination is still quite difficult to find in collector markets such as Australia.
..Yes I agree...Although the mintage of these coins was much lower than other denominations there was still a lot of them floating around but can sometimes have highly inflated prices!, and you always have to be on the look out for forgeries...

The 8 Annas has always intrigued me and I actually find the design aesthetically pleasing, I dont know why, but probably something to do with the big 8. I was lucky enough to find the OP coin locally and paid 40$ but have seen similar coins up to 3 times that!

Interesting what you said about the fluctuation in the price of silver, a good point, and would explain the change between the CN and Siver coinage...I seem to remember reading somewhere that in an eight month period the intrinsic value of a silver coin, in the late 1919's could fluctuate by +/- 45% !?

Love to see a photo of your coin if you have one handy..Paul

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Any more education coming Paul?

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Yep!...
Just waiting for a couple of coins to arrive. Should be in the next couple of days....The drafts are prepared just need to add some photos..
Then I can bore you all some more ..Paul
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Not boring at all! I love British India coins!
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@palouche -

This is a great thread. I just happened across a 1913 1 Rupee in my collection of world silver - I wanted to learn more about it and that's how I ended up here. Very informative with lots of great photos. My rupee isn't nice enough to upload images but I can certainly appreciate all the examples I see here!
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Thanks jeffbuckes..I'm glad the thread has been useful...


OK...To finish off the George V 1919 series is the 1 Rupee = 16 Annas

1 Rupee KM#523/524 = 31mm diameter...11.65gr...Edge reeded...Silver .917..
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Calcutta Mint..No Mintmark.
1911 KM#523(pig coin)...1912-1920...1935-1936(proof coin only).KM#524
Note..Calcutta continued minting Rupees from 1920-1923 with the frozen date of 1920.

Bombay Mint..Mintmark a raised dot below bottom flower.
1911 KM#523(pig coin)..1912-1922...KM#524

Key date coin..1922 Bombay with lowest mintage 2,051,150

Here are my examples...
1919 1 Rupee Calcutta Mintage 211,206,255....KM#524
1919 1 Rupee Bombay Mintage 226,706,054....KM#524
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I do hope everyone has found this series interesting..I've actually enjoyed putting this date series together and its quite an easy and cheap set to collect..(The next set I'll be presenting is Edward VII).....Paul

Here's my George V 1919 set together......

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Very nice looking set Paul. And as always I am looking forward to the next part on this journey.
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Nice display, Paul!
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