Really Old Coin From 1721, Worth Anything?

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kaikun2001 Valued Member Sweden 83 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 1:50 pm Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for advance for the last picture it came out quit bad when I cropped it Edited by kaikun2001 10/12/2018 3:05 pm Report this Post to the Staff

paulCT Valued Member 186 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 2:05 pm kaikun2001 It's a 1721 Sweden,Riksdaler,Dav. #1719, 200th Anniversary of Liberation War,Frederick I.Very nice piece! Report this Post to the Staff
kaikun2001 Valued Member Sweden 83 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 2:55 pm thank you so much for the quick response paulCT, very interesting I didn't know it was a Swedish coin:) do you happen to know the value? Report this Post to the Staff
paulCT Valued Member 186 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 3:04 pm Depending on the grade it goes from a few hundred euros to a few thousands!It's quite rare also.I wish I could afford a piece like this but honestly it's out of my league! https://www.coinarchives.com/w/resu...&results=100 Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7939 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 3:06 pm You will find recent auction prices here, ranging from about $400 to well over $1,000 depending on condition, eye appeal, etc. https://www.coinarchives.com/w/resu...&results=100 Report this Post to the Staff
kaikun2001 Valued Member Sweden 83 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 3:08 pm thank you again for the swift response, I had no idea that this coin was rare or valued so high.Do you think that this coin would be classified as a high grade coin? Report this Post to the Staff
paulCT Valued Member 186 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 3:15 pm kaikun2001 I'd say so! Report this Post to the Staff
kaikun2001 Valued Member Sweden 83 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 3:20 pm Thank you for the reply, Neat I wonder what kind of grade it would get if I sent it to NGC:) Report this Post to the Staff
Albert Pillar of the Community United States 1913 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 3:20 pm I have a feeling that the coin is not really old and might be worth about one or two dollars. Report this Post to the Staff
kaikun2001 Valued Member Sweden 83 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 3:24 pm Could you elaborate further Albert.Thank you Report this Post to the Staff
JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21601 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 4:18 pm I think what Albert is saying is that it looks counterfeit. Can you take a shot of the edge and what is the weight? Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 4:20 pm He's implying your coin is/might be a modern fake, which experience tells us is rarely a bad assumption for nicer grade continental Europe thalers that come out of the woodwork these days (TONS of recent Chinese/Eastern European of big older German States/Scandinavian silver types out there). There's also the whole feigning ignorance about coins shtick: "really old coin from 1721... would this be classified as high grade"... and yet you know NGC. Circumstantially, that sets off the cynic's BS alert even more. But anyway... stop doing the distracting photo editing cropping/bordering to the pics - it's distorting a proper view of the coin. Post pics without that (just do a rectangle crop, leaving some border beyond the coin's edge)... and without the overexposed lighting. Albert, these aren't my area at all, but I actually think the surfaces as seen in the last photo don't look all that bad/damming. However, I'm doubtful until proven otherwise. ------------------------- PS - The fact that it is (or wants to be) Swedish shouldn't be surprising, as you've posted Swedish pieces before... Does anyone recall this thread?: http://goccf.com/t/298271 Then this one more recently: http://goccf.com/t/327784 So we've got father AND grandfather involved... heh. That said, the surfaces really don't look bad on any of those. Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7939 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 7:46 pm So, there was this comment on one of those threads: Quote: I have decided that I'm going to have the coin certified by a professional for examination Was the coin certified? By which company? And that would seem to be the way to go with this coin, too. Please let us know the result! Report this Post to the Staff
Albert Pillar of the Community United States 1913 Posts	Posted 10/12/2018 9:29 pm Parts of this coin and locations of certain devices suggest a cast copy coin to me. Report this Post to the Staff
jgenn Pillar of the Community United States 1156 Posts	Posted 10/13/2018 02:04 am How about the one he found in the attic or the one he found metal detecting. This poster is disingenuous at best. I think the kind souls here have been helping the counterfeiters perfect their techniques by pointing out the defects. I wonder why they are targeting Swedish coins. Report this Post to the Staff
Albert Pillar of the Community United States 1913 Posts	Posted 10/13/2018 02:44 am I avoided pointing out exactly what flaws I suspected for the reason above. Attics, metal detecting, dads, grandpas, tomb finds- ever get the idea makers and sellers of fakes play us for saps or suckers? Quite a few low volume posters or new member names seem to pretend to be ignorant of some pretty seemingly valuable coins they come up with. Not only Sweden, but British, Germany, Russia, Poland, Austria crowns & talers can be found online looking for copy coins. Some of these end up being seen here along with the stories. Report this Post to the Staff
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