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2019 Apollo 11 Commems - Released January 24th, 2019

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My 5 oz. coin was part of a back order which included a proof and uncirculated Apollo gold coin which I have already received and was shipped by UPS signature also. Was not charged any shipping on this order.
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That works ... good luck with your saucer. I saw a couple of other "Ship date of May 1st" that were also shipped to purchasers recently

Wonder when the October crowd will start to depart....I have a couple more in that bunch

My original ones were received by NGC 14 days ago and still haven't proceeded to be scheduled for grading
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I am planning n attending the National Coin Show in Pittsburgh, PA on March 29 and 30, only a half hour drive for me. There will be a PCGS representative there to receive coins for grading. Will I get a faster turnaround time by submitting my coins this way? I never have been to a national coin show. I plan on taking my 5 oz. Apollo coin also.
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There will be a PCGS representative there to receive coins for grading. Will I get a faster turnaround time by submitting my coins this way? I never have been to a national coin show. I plan on taking my 5 oz. Apollo coin also.


If you do show grading you would. Show grading is a lot more expensive though and I am not sure if you could even do it with the 5 oz.

If you submit to them at the show for normal grading you save the cost of shipping the coins to them.

Basically it's would you rather ship them now or wait a month and save the cost of shipping
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If you submit to them at the show for normal grading you save the cost of shipping the coins to them.

Basically it's would you rather ship them now or wait a month and save the cost of shipping


Thanks for the information
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...and they are not First Strike eligible so that will save you some cash with both means
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.and they are not First Strike eligible so that will save you some cash with both means


Thanks for the information
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Bought the uncirculated coins yesterday before the price increase. They shipped today. I can't wait to compare them to my proofs
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Now with that said modern 70 populations are over represented percentage wise always with these things. The reason for that is that bulk submissions more and more and actually almost always now give a minimum grade of 70 to get graded. They still have charges and everything else but if it isn't a 70 it gets returned to them raw and doesn't enter the population report.
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Basebal21, I am sure I am misunderstanding Your comment above. I am sort of once removed from the Grading facts, However it use to be known that people with a very recognized name and status received a better grade with all their submissions, then johnny no name. I always thought that was just an unwritten policy, BUT Your above comments say that it is a given, that bulk submissions get a preferred treatment, as far as the total of actual 70's or "perfect coins". Your comment suggests that it is still true , May I ask, is that practice Your opinion or is it now a policy of the TPG'S.? PS, Then You stated a complete different comment that IF the coins were not 70's, they would be returned.. After saying the 70's pop report is skewed? Are the 70's NOT 70's and the report is falsely inflated about 70's or being the NOT 70's coins are returned, How is the report skewed about the actual amount of Real 70's ? Thank You.....
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Basebal21, I am sure I am misunderstanding Your comment above. I am sort of once removed from the Grading facts, However it use to be known that people with a very recognized name and status received a better grade with all their submissions, then johnny no name. I always thought that was just an unwritten policy, BUT Your above comments say that it is a given, that bulk submissions get a preferred treatment, as far as the total of actual 70's or "perfect coins". Your comment suggests that it is still true , May I ask, is that practice Your opinion or is it now a policy of the TPG'S.? PS, Then You stated a complete different comment that IF the coins were not 70's, they would be returned.. After saying the 70's pop report is skewed? Are the 70's NOT 70's and the report is falsely inflated about 70's or being the NOT 70's coins are returned, How is the report skewed about the actual amount of Real 70's ? Thank You.....


I believe basebal21 is saying that coins submitted to TPG's, it can be requested if any coins do not grade a 70 that they be returned without being graded and slabbed. Just returned without a grade unless it is a perfect 70.
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However it use to be known that people with a very recognized name and status received a better grade with all their submissions, then johnny no name.


This is a fallacy with the top tier TPGs.

There is no preferential grades from top TPGs.

Requesting a minimum grade just means what will be holdered and what is sent back raw


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I believe basebal21 is saying that you can request that if any coins that do not rate a 70, it can be requested that it not be graded and slabbed. Just returned without a grade unless it is a perfect 70.


This, spot on.
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ANYONE can indicate a minimum grade for ANY coin they submit...no conspiracy here at all.

With that said if someone (anyone) submitted 1000 coins and requested a minimum grade of 70 this would be the scenario:

......payment for the grading of 1000 coins would be made (yes, large volume dealers DO get a significant discount...volume pricing)

......the 70's would be slabbed and the others returned to be eventually sold raw (thus the sometimes "below Mint price" offers)

......say 150 of 1000 grade 70 and are added to the POP report making the 69 to 70 percentage TOTALLY useless

SO if you see 39% 70's it could, in reality, only be in the 15% or less range
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I know volume sellers play this game, but I've never really understood why. Isn't the cost to them the same whether or not a coin gets slabbed? Can the raw coin in OGP be sold for more than a slabbed 69? or heaven forbid a 68?

I understand requesting a minimum grade for a crossover, but what's the advantage to the seller in requesting a minimum grade for a raw coin?

Plus, as others have said, not getting the lower graded coins slabbed artificially increases the percentages of coins graded 70. You'd think that making 70s look more plentiful would lower the price of a graded 70 coin.
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Thank You Again, Confusing!!! The returned coins are not graded but, THEY do pay for it being Looked at, Correct?
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Bought the uncirculated coins yesterday before the price increase. They shipped today. I can't wait to compare them to my proofs


I prefer the MS dollars and halves. I would love to see a 5 oz MS coin.
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