2019 Apollo 11 Commems - Released January 24th, 2019

Good points about protection and storage. Definitely easier to store a NGC or PCGS box of 20 slabs than 20 OGP boxes and they make it easier to see the coin...

The 25th Annie ASE OGP was perfect for both. Five slabs fit in the box and created a great presentation case...same with a couple of the two coin sets that followed.

The labels only change if you decide to buy different labels. If you collect PCGS FS or NGC ER (or not) then they are reasonably consistent..

Interesting, how so?

Baseball, I have been collecting since 1963, I collect ALL OGP'G material and then some. Your comments are again, Your Opinions. You have been placing comments that others have clearly stated should say, and have asked you to say, are my opinions, and here You state that TPG'S protect coins better than the Original Government Packaging. That is Your opinion, I am in total disagreement with that view. I see them as fumbling with the optimum preservation of the coins, My Opinion.I know that people pay better than good money for their grade opinions, During those times, In My Opinion, they do not use the proper ' what's best for the coin safety measures " Your opinion and mine are different, only I treat you as you should be, with respect and good manners. Your way of highlighting people's remarks then going about to tell all why they are wrong is not kind or friendly. Although I have been around this forum for a Very long time and it seems what's not acceptable for one is clearly acceptable for " other's ".........PS, Could You try to mention that the remarks You give are
' in Your opinion '..... Thanks

That's actually a fact. Hazing on brown box Ikes is a well known issue. So is mint cello destroying coins over time. It doesn't happen to every coin but it happens enough to be a known issue just like milk spot spotting which is a mint issue. If you have never experienced any of that you certainly have been lucky




They handle coins properly.




Information isn't always friendly. Social events are supposed to be friendly or a happy hour get together. Factual information is just exactly that factual. Knowledge and education should be the most important part when discussing issues




Read that again. First I wasn't the one who said it, rather I quoted it. But it is still true. 70s come from the mint, but again read it again. He was saying a significant percentage of what the mint issues would not be a 70 which is absolutely true. The quality control issues of the mint overall are well documented and from what I have seen and in this case my opinion the quality of the US mint over all is lagging behind several world mints.

There's a reason why the big sellers looking for a lot of 70s buy massive quantities to get what they need, if most or almost all of the mint products were 70s their purchases would be much smaller.




Actually people selling graded 70s have the best merchandise available to get a perfect coin. If someone wants a perfect one get it from someone selling a 70. You can roll the dice with the mint, but it is exactly that a gamble

Though I do agree that some of the OGP had damaged proofs over time, far more proofs are damaged by improper handling. This can happen at the mint, but more likely it's after the coins leave the mint. Dealers, collectors and yes, even 3rd party graders have damaged coins. The primary reason for the damage is that these people just are not following the known best practices necessary to prevent damage to a coin. Though some modern proofs in OGP have spotted directly from the mint, most spots are caused post mint by people breathing over bare coins, touching them with bare hands or improper storage. If people just wore masks and quality cotton disposable gloves, most of these spots wouldn't happen. These are simple best practices that everyone should follow.

I'm not talking about milk spots. I'm talking about the black spots that sometimes develop on proofs. I've had US proofs in OGP that developed a haze as time passed, but have never had a US coin that developed a milk spot. I have seen them on foreign coins though. I've been collecting since the early '80's.



While most collectors and dealers don't have the means to have an HVAC system that scrubs particulates from the air and keeps humidity to a low level, the mint and 3rd party graders absolutely should have these systems in place. It would be interesting to know to what extent they do. I've heard nothing from the 3rd party grading services in this regard. I'd think that if they had such systems in place, they'd make a point to advertise it. Perhaps they have and I missed it.

Please take no offense, but your claim that "gloves do more harm than good" is just patently absurd. I've been using good quality disposable cotton gloves for years and have never once seen an ill effect. In fact, I've never even heard someone make a claim that a coin was damaged by gloves. I'm not saying that it can't happen as people can screw up anything. I've seem plenty of coins with dark areas around the edges where oils remained after someone held a coin by the rim, not to mention the black spots caused by moisture droplets. When I was putting together my ASE collection, I looked at a plethora of ASE's that had dark spots around the rim caused by holding them with bare fingers. Exposure of proofs is risky. I think that people should follow best practices to reduce the odds.

I think that one of the funniest things about 3rd party graded coins is that there is such a lack of confidence in the grades given, there is now 4th party grading. CAC is 4th party for classics and MAC is 4th party of moderns.