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Terminology is NOT a secondary consideration. We thank you for these pics, but these are certainly not Cuds, and in fact I'm not sure what you are pointing out as errors here.  |
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Quote:Here in Australia any lumps of metal (or Die chips) in odd places are referred to as Cuds, and it's been that way for a looooong time. REF: http://goccf.com/t/336258&whichpage=11#2993163I agree with what Nevol has to say It is quite obvious terminology used by Americans for coin errors is different to that Australians use Quote:
and in fact I'm not sure what you are pointing out as errors here The errors are clearly shown within the red and green outlines Edited by mrcruise
06/13/2019 02:30 am
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  all you want coinfrog, but we in Straya will all still be calling them Cuds. As to whether they are errors, I would say so but not that valuable  . |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I agree with what Nevol has to say Quote:Those are US rules. Here in Australia any lumps of metal (or Die chips) in odd places are referred to as Cuds, and it's been that way for a looooong time. Rim Cuds here usually only involve the rim. Coins in the US and Australia are minted the same way. I didn't invent the word "cud," but having a different definition obviously complicates things and creates separation in the numismatic community. In the "US," a "rim Cud" only involves the rim stepdown on the die and not the face. If any die chip is a Cud in "Straya," then what do you call a rim Cud? Just a Cud, right? The location doesn't matter. That seems like a less specific system. In analyzing die breaks, there is definitely a difference between breaks only affecting the step down and those affecting the die face. Those are two distinct levels of die failure. Another level would be interior die breaks (which, I assume, would also be Cuds in Australia). It's not so simple. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
Edited by spru
06/15/2019 03:51 am
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Edited by USSID18
06/15/2019 9:57 pm
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Rest in Peace
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@mrcruise, Your either brave, stupid, or ignorant, or perhaps just the last two, to be messing with a United States Marine! I pity you fool!  |
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Rest in Peace
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Wow - this topic has certainly gone out of control
We've all had a giggle and laugh but suggest we stick to discussions on coins
PS: I'm a big fan of the military
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True difference in classification of errors does complicate this sort of error. However like I said measurement are classed differently in the "US" also weight and so is temperature, sorry if we are different here, we don't need you getting your thongs in a twist >.< . sfitzernator that one JUICY Cud :D Edited by ryurazu
06/17/2019 12:21 am
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True difference in classification of errors does complicate this sort of error. I agree in this case. Classification requires research. So, why essentially say "to heck with that" in the very next sentence (and also... ad hominem much)? Do you not care about clarity? This is not an argument of one country against another. I agree with Coinfrog (and would, no matter his location) in that terminology is important. The numismatic community is worldwide and I enjoy the comraderie. Errors and Die Deterioration can be complicated subjects. Reducing many different types to one catch-all term is convenient, but it goes against advancing numismatic knowledge. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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06/17/2019 02:51 am
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