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I didn't think it was possible to have an incuse dropped letter show up on the rim, but this sure looks like one. Interested in opinions on this coin, as it very much looks like the L in LIBERTY showed up on the rim. The obvious usual culprit for such a thing is another coin pressing against it and impressing some lettering, but how do you get that L in there with no apparent raised areas around it and no other damage visible on the rim? 1960-D small date Lincoln Memorial cent - incuse letter on rim     |
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Maybe I'm not understanding, but why do you think it has to do with the "L" in LIBERTY and not just a minor struck through debris error?
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I agree with TB. The one on the rim is upside down making it look like a backward 7. The contour of the left side and top of the second "L" matches the "L" on the real one. I hope it's alright to use TB's images to show the profile of dropped letter. (Mods, if not please delete.)  Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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Edited by Petespockets55
04/15/2020 08:14 am
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Way too many variables to come to any conclusion. Looks like a flipped over L from another coin would look to me.
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What I notice is the the edge is moving outwards to the left of the area in question. That concerns me. It maybe just PSD. Image #4. |
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I did a quick overlay of a cutout L, shifted the color and flipped it so that it's lined up with the indention. I DO think it is a dropped "L" from LIBERTY, but proving it as such would be next to impossible. I don't see any curves from the rim of another coin, so I don't think it's squeezed. It's not exact but here ya go.   ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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During the minting process no pressure is imparted onto the rim unless it was struck off center or double struck (I'm I right about that?), maybe there was an impurity in the planchet which popped out during the "rimming" process or like copp stated PMD (which I tend to agree with)....  Edited by Greasy Fingers
04/15/2020 3:45 pm
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IMHO, I still believe this is done at the time of the strike. If this happened PSD, wouldn't the metal that was displaced push to the inside or outside and show up as a bulge or at least a large pressure ridge? To me, both sides of the rim still look perfectly formed. No distortion at all. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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04/16/2020 08:09 am
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I'm in the dropped letter camp, it's just almost impossible to authenticate I think.
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Hi, everyone. Can the mystery of tropicalbats' coin be unlocked by the error-ref guru?  |
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If you mean Mike D., more than likely, if someone gives him a heads up.
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While I cannot rule out a dropped letter, it's more likely to be a light contact mark from another cent. In cases of light contact, there are often no discernible pressure ridges. Moreover, you'll notice that the horizontal bar of the L fades out as it reaches the downslope of the design rim. This is the pattern you'd expect of a contact mark.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Mike Diamond is correct. It is PSD (Post Strike Damage). Just a very well placed contact mark. Errers and Varietys.
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04/18/2020 2:35 pm
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Thanks Mike for checking it out.
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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Much thanks for all the comments, and Mike your diagnosis is much appreciated. It was a long shot for a dropped letter, but at least an interesting coin to learn a bit more about things with.
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