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Pillar of the Community
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FYI:
Just got an Email from Whitman Publishing this afternoon
* Book has SHIPPED! August 8th, 2023*
I had Pre-Ordered on May 1st,2023*
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Pillar of the Community
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I am currently at the World's Fair of Money in Pittsburgh. They have it, it's real!
Though I am now extremely disappointed in it. I contributed photos to Fivaz and Whitman to use in this book back in 2020. I only asked to be credited for the photos. They used the photos and I am not credited. Photo credit to "Whitman Publishing Archives". I'm not even in the acknowledgements.
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Quote: I am currently at the World's Fair of Money in Pittsburgh. They have it, it's real! Fantastic!  Quote: Though I am now extremely disappointed in it... 
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Just got an Email from Whitman Publishing this afternoon
* Book has SHIPPED! August 8th, 2023* I am currently at the World's Fair of Money in Pittsburgh. They have it, it's real!
 Quote: Though I am now extremely disappointed in it. I contributed photos to Fivaz and Whitman to use in this book back in 2020. I only asked to be credited for the photos. They used the photos and I am not credited. Photo credit to "Whitman Publishing Archives". I'm not even in the acknowledgements. It is good that they used the photos which I'm sure will help out many in the community so thank you for that, but not sure why they would not give you proper credit in the book. Hopefully was a mistake and can be fixed eventually.
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Quote: Hopefully was a mistake and can be fixed eventually. Seems like it was. Being at the show I was able to talk to the publisher in person, seems like they will have it corrected for the next edition and will try to make things right. I probably shouldn't have aired that publicly before trying to resolve the issue, I was just very frustrated in the moment.
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Pillar of the Community
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Your frustration is understandable. You did them a professional courtesy, they failed to return the favor.
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Quote: Seems like it was. Being at the show I was able to talk to the publisher in person, seems like they will have it corrected for the next edition and will try to make things right. I probably shouldn't have aired that publicly before trying to resolve the issue, I was just very frustrated in the moment.
Your frustration is understandable. You did them a professional courtesy, they failed to return the favor. No worries, sounds like they will make things right.  I'll just fix this up Men in black style and noone will know it happened.  
Edited by datadragon 08/09/2023 11:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Is the 6th ed. vol. 2 worth it If I already have 5th ed vol 2 and 6th ed vol 1
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Is the 6th ed. vol. 2 worth it If I already have 5th ed vol 2 and 6th ed vol 1 Seems so as it added a lot of new information and photos if you want the most complete updated book and can sell the other (but we dont know who gave those great photos  ) The newest edition of the CherryPickers' Guide features over 440 die varieties, with almost 80 brand-new additions to the ongoing series. https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/11896/6th ed vol 1 you have is another book entirely that covers different things. That volume covers collectible die varieties of Half Cents through nickel five-cent pieces. Included are some of the most popular American coin types, including Lincoln cents and Buffalo nickels. The new sixth edition, volume I, covers Half Cents, large cents, small cents, two-cent and three-cent pieces, and nickels. Volume II covers Capped Bust and Liberty Seated half dimes, dimes, and quarters; Barber dimes and quarters; Mercury dimes; Roosevelt dimes; twenty-cent pieces; Standing Liberty quarters; and Washington quarters, including the State, D.C., Territorial, and National Park series. A Volume III is in the works now also.
Edited by datadragon 08/10/2023 12:38 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Though I am now extremely disappointed in it. I contributed photos to Fivaz and Whitman to use in this book back in 2020. I only asked to be credited for the photos. They used the photos and I am not credited. Photo credit to "Whitman Publishing Archives". I'm not even in the acknowledgements. I share your sentiment. I'm sure it's a very complicated project to put a book like this together, but they seem to have problems keeping track of stuff. All the way back in late 2019 I was working with them on several new Barber dime transition varieties, one of which with a new RPD, they narrowed it down to including 3-4 of them. Many emails were exchanged over the course of several months and I put probably 20+ hours into it. The stuff I submitted was essentially ready to print. Then a month+ of silence, followed by a terse note that due to space limitations, my stuff wouldn't be included. Fast forward to April 2022, and out of the blue they want 4 of the varieties again, with a list of things I need to provide them. Well, I had already sent them most of what they needed, more than two years prior. Did they lose all of it? I asked if they had a deadline, and they said they want to "wrap it up this week and next." So I'm supposed to drop everything and redo stuff that they rejected two years ago? Being pressured like that under the circumstances left me feeling abused, and I didn't respond. I really didn't feel like wasting my time again. It's sort of funny in retrospect to be told a deadline like that and then the book still doesn't come out for well over a year. My understanding from the other thread is that they dropped 27 of the dime entries out of the 37 that were in the previous edition, so my hunch that I would be wasting my time was probably correct. I'm sure things like this happen all the time in the publishing world. But when they're essentially crowdsourcing all their material, it seems like they could treat their contributors with a little more courtesy.
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This is my first Cherrypickers' book. It's good so far. I read all the introductions, appendixes, etc. and also looked at the quarter section, but was disappointed that there's no colored photos, especially for the price. Since this is one of the premiere variety books I expected there to be colored images. Is it because varieties show better in black and white? Would it be much more expensive to make?
I also expected more varieties. I know the aim was to focus on the more significant ones, but I thought it'd go much more in-depth. I'd like a book that shows varieties that only go for let's say up to seven dollars. This book could be useful in regards to knowing which are the top ones to look for without having to go through the lesser valued ones, so I'm not saying it's a bad thing the way it was put together.
Is Strike It Rich in color? I was just going to focus on quarter varieties, but I'm going to focus on quarters and pennies because Lincoln cents are much easier to do big coin roll hunts without taking out nearly as much from the bank as taking out quarters.
Edited by CozyCoin 08/26/2023 8:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Strike It Rich is also presented in black and white. The picture quality is comparable to Cherrypicker's Guide. I found Strike to be the better purchase because it focuses entirely on current coins and contains everything from 1¢ to $1 coins in a single complete book. However, both books are lacking in the quality and completeness of their pictures, especially when compared to Wexler's online guide, Variety Vista, PGCS, NGC VarietyPlus, or CopperCoins.com.
It is worth noting that I own the electronic copies of those two books. Maybe the print versions are superior in some way. I found Strike and Cherry to be a waste of $20 and $25, respectively. But the burn was a learning experience. Caveat emptor.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: I'd like a book that shows varieties that only go for let's say up to seven dollars I don't intend to disparage CPG but I'll point out that part of what I was supposed to submit to them (see above) were their URS (universal rarity scale), I (interest) and L (liquidity) numbers, as well as values. I would have been just making it up. I suspect the same is true for many of the other submissions. Everybody wants to know "how much is it worth", but it's impossible to put any real numbers on these things particularly when they've never been published before. So take it with a grain of salt.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think authors put the rare, expensive, famous coins in the books to add a little sizzle to the steak. It's the same reason that many podcasters lead with a thumbnail that says "Do you have this $43200 nickel in your pocket?"
In the $5-10 range, you seem much more likely to get a good picture using Wexler's Doubled Dies, Brian's Variety Coins (for nickels), Variety Vista. Brian's site lists sold coins of many denominations, so you can see what they were and how to identify them.
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I find the Strike it rich book is a better first purchase for those who are new or looking for a good starter guide as it covers the entire range as mentioned in a single book (Cherrypickers will be 3). It also is a bit better curated in that it covers many of the important ones from cherrypickers as well as some of the many minor ones that may actually be found that could be worthwhile to look for, and not trying to cover ALL the varieties as you may find on doubleddie, varietyvista and coppercoins among others but those may not have value sometimes, or havent yet been sold to establish one, or may be difficult for someone new to identify. The websites on the other hand are a bit overwhelming for the newbie since there is too much to look for and they need a curated guide, but can be useful to someone like Brand above that is comfortable both in what to look for and may wish to sort even the less valuable coins with their time.
Cherrypickers is a bit more advanced but I can see that everyone has their own opinion as always about what a perfect book might be. Color photos or a bit more since cherrypickers is split into 3 volumes now or some type of rarity index like they do with video games (1-10 scale for example) could be helpful in future editions.
Edited by datadragon 08/26/2023 1:48 pm
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