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1882 GSA 1882 VAM 3A?

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 Posted 11/29/2008  01:08 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gosilvergo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, came across what I believe a VAM 3a in one of my CC GSA encapsulated Coins. -Bobby
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 Posted 11/29/2008  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like a winner ya got there.
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 Posted 11/29/2008  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorgansRmine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good to me, nice catch.
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 Posted 11/29/2008  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a very nice coin. I would ask the resident pro's why the incused markings on the reverse right wing and the "incused" I from in on the obverse at the neck are not even mentioned in the VAM #?
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 Posted 11/29/2008  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorgansRmine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mike, what your seeing on the right wing is remnants of a neck line clash. In this case the die rotated slightly between clashing a 2nd time leaving two clash lines. Single, double, tripled clashes are very common and mainly used only as a die marker.

Single neck line clash going up to n.

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I think your mistaking the remnants of the left wing clash for an I. Here's a picture of the left wing clash and the top of the n from In below the clash.

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So if I am taking this all in , the neck line clash is a "die marker' for this die.Also the top of the "n" from in, I have never quite made this out, or visually seen this to know what this means.If I am interpeting this correct, you mean the letter"n" can be seen below the obv neck line clash?, I have read about this and I think all I have read is referring to the letter "n" and I have not been able to see this.If this is what I believe this to mean.I see in the photos you have , there are marks below the neck clash, however I do not see a letter n.I thank-you for your time and advice, please do not give up , I am very much interested in this subject and your help is greatly appreciated, Mike
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 Posted 11/29/2008  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorgansRmine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your getting it Mike, The wing and neck clashes are mainly die markers. The transferred letter is what changes the Vam#. Very seldom will you see the complete letter. The arched line next to the neck is a partial n. This is an 1884 8B. Vamworld has better picture that may help you to understand.
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 Posted 11/29/2008  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As usual, thanks again, MIKE
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