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Canada
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Hi Everyone, I recently picked up this ANACS 1859 Large Cent MS-62RB for about $300 in a recent auction. On the slab, it just says RPD, without any specific mention of which variety. I looked at coinsandcanada, they looked pretty similar so I was wondering if I could get some help with which specific variety it is? TIA    |
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Canada
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Looks like a #4 as per C+C photo  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Better pictures of obverse and reverse would really help to see markers for certain DP9's it looks like a #2. I don't think it is a #4 its hard to see need bigger picture's and clean view of coin
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 Canada
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Yes, a DP#4. About $2000 Cdn in MS-60 in Trends.
Sorry, it's not #4.. Please see my post further down. My fingers were on the keyboard before my eyes and mind kicked in.
Edited by okiecoiner
03/12/2021 2:02 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Can you take a picture of the 5 and leaf 7 they will tell you if it is a #4. I think the die crack is in the wrong place on leaf 7 to be a #4
I think your coin is a Haxby PC59-22 10 + E12
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03/12/2021 1:02 pm
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Canada
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Well, that's the same one that we designated a #4 in the 2011 Charlton for the Vicky variety. Once it was in Charlton, then Trends and the other TPG's accepted it.. The #4 has a weak D/C at leaf 4 tip and a larger one at leaf 7. It is definitely not a #2. I don't know what Haxby PC59-22 10 + E12 correlates to. Yes, now that I have looked at his reverse more carefully, it is not a #4. I looked at the 4 #4's that I have, one in XF+, and I see the proper D/C's at 4 & 7 like all #4's have I didn't look closely enough at his posted Reverse. I was just looking at the 9. Sorry, folks. My 9 1/2 in my mouth didn't taste good. Edited by okiecoiner
03/12/2021 2:04 pm
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Canada
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No its not a #2 okie I was guessing. I have been fooled by this coin in the past thinking it was a #4 better pictures would have been better to decide which one it was still a nice DP9 variation
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Canada
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I think that it's p 283 in our Charlton. Still a fairly scarce coin. I have 4 of those as well.
I put 293 when I first posted this answer, but had a typo and hit 9 instead of 8. Fat arthritis fingers don't do well on keyboards.
Edited by okiecoiner
03/12/2021 4:00 pm
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I think your coin is a Haxby PC59-22 10 + E12 Correct-- papeldog as die cracks match on 7-12 Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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United States
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I agree, it looks like a 10+E12. It's a nice coin!
Okie, I think that one is page 283. The one on 293 is the triple punch #2.
If it's helpful for collectors, I could post a cross reference list with the Haxby numbers for the 1859's listed in the back of the 2011 Charlton. I'll find my list and post those tonight.
Edited by Phil310
03/12/2021 4:01 pm
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Thanks for all the help, I'll try and get pics of the leaves. If its 10 + E12, what exactly does that correspond with? Would that mean it is a DP N9 #4?
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Valued Member
Canada
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Would you guys say its worth crossing to ICCS or PCGS even?
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United States
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It is not the DP N9 #4. The 10+E12 is not as scarce as the #4.
Based on the studies we did for the 1859 N9 rarity ratings. the 10+E12 showed up about twice as often as the DP9 #4 (Haxby 23+E25a).
In a 4,806 coin sample, there were 33 10+E12 and 18 23+E25a.
Edited by Phil310
03/12/2021 4:29 pm
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Canada
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We put a price on it as $800 Cdn in MS60 in the 2011 Charlton and ICCS and Trends have closely followed with our pricing. It's a neat, well-offset variety and I think that you'd get the best luck with ICCS, since they were involved in out variety section. You'd get your best bang-for-the-buck with ICCS and you can suggest that it's on p283 of the 2011, 65th edition, of Charlton.
Edited by okiecoiner
03/12/2021 4:24 pm
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Canada
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Okie, I have the 2013 version, the purple one. I may be talking about the wrong book here but pages 283 are test tokens? The large cents are in the beginning?
I will probably grade it at ICCS. They will just list the variety as 10+E12 right and not a specific numbered DP N9 variety right?
Thanks!
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