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Removing Various 'Gunk' From Commemorative Coins

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 Posted 01/24/2009  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add christian_cyclist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, the dealer would give you $8 for it so he can sell it for $12. He needs to make a profit and that's one way to do it. Unless he meant that the coin is only worth $8 street value? A more precise question would have been, "What can you sell this coin for?"

I think your dealer seems to have it together. Enjoy the coin. There is probably nothing you can do to remove what looks like (to me) silver oxide.

Did you use acetone to clean the coin or did you decide on something different?

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 Posted 01/25/2009  05:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I suspect it is the haze on the coin's surfaces you are talking about as smudges. Some may be due to detrimental and negligent handling, but most of it is a (toning/corrosion) take your choice ( process). On a business strike it might not even be visible, even though it would be there. It would eventually take on a yellow /gold coloration over time. There are ways to remove it, conservation companies can do it with minimum damage to the surface, but for this value coin it wouldn't be worth it. Some people have acquired the knowledge and ability to do it themselves, but they have had many "sacrificial" coin trials to know how and most importantly WHEN it can be done with minimal harm. They have usually suffered some financial loss of value.

At this point, you can (1) sell and replace, (2) let it go a few years if it doesn't continue to worsen, or (3) experiment with a very diluted dip with the possibility it will become a bullion coin due to damaged surfaces.

It is your coin! It certainly isn't like dipping a rare $$$$ coin. But if you use a dip, dilute it 1:10 to start. It takes longer but you have more working time before damage occurs. I am NOT suggesting you should do this, just that if your next step was going to be to try catsup, vinegar, Hydrochloric acid, brillo pad, biox,etc., a dilute dip is a better choice.

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 Posted 01/25/2009  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brewzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am a moldmaker by trade,and have learned how to polish steel and other metals to a high degree.Read,"mirror finish",it takes a long time and lots of practice and cleanliness.One little piece of dust floating around can ruin hours of work....that being said,someone with no experience can quickly ruin a coin.I would not recommend just anyone try to save a coin like the op's.I don't clean my coins,other than maybe some soap and water or acetone on a low value coin.Although I DID get a bust half that was f-vf,and looked dipped with no luster left,I made it look nice with no scratches or hairlines,with a small amount of #1 diamond paste and a very soft cup brush,but this is a coin that I never plan on getting rid of.I don't think there is any way of doing anything with a proof coin without completely ruining it....
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 Posted 01/30/2009  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brewzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the coin I was talking about.....
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 Posted 01/31/2009  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you took that coin to a lab where they have an electron microscope, you could magnify that coin to about 50,000X and really see imperfections.
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