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My tenth entry in the Top 100 list at #69, the unique 1836 "Gobretch" Dollar.  |
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im a bit surprised the 1943 bronze cent is a top 10 (8th) coin in that list. its so out of place that I really cant take the other rankings seriously. its ranked higher than the 1909-s vdb (14) which is the best wheat, the chain cent (15) which is the best cent, the 1856 flying eagle (23) which is quite a bit more interesting than any Wheat cent. 22 plain and the 55 DDO are more interesting and unique mint error wheats. the bronze war cent a top 10 coin? strange choice. |
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It is probably the rarest out of all the cents that actually trade and the price tag is probably representative of its desirability. Fewer than 10 are known to exist. You probably can't get one for under $200k. Also most people have a connection with Lincolns as most collectors started by looking at pennies - myself included. It is in a different class than others that can be had by an average collector like me. Compared to a 1913 nickel or 1894-S dime the 1943 bronze is probably a bargain because it can be had at relatively lower grades for way less than a million with comparable rarity.
High grade chain cents have sold for more, but those are really condition rarities.
The 1793 wreath cent with strawberry leaf is probably the king of all cents. It's just that almost no one has ever heard of them. 4 known - 1 PCGS FR2, 1 PCGS AG3, 1 PCGS G4, 1 PCGS VG10, 1 NGC F12. Since 5 have been graded and 4 are known to exist, one must have been resubmitted or crossed to a different holder.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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thats a strong argument in favor of the coin. it struck me as out of place because its a planchet composition error, which is relatively common across the entirety of numismatics. here is one that I own and one that I dont own, but had the chance to hold and photograph. both have been discussed here in the past.    |
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Nice, your unique countermarked chain cent is a fine addition to this list.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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thanks!
hopefully I get to add a couple more over the coming years. I would like to add the other 4 chain cent varieties, both of the strawberry leafs and a starred reverse cent to my set. we will see. those things demand some pretty serious money.
ive owned a decent number of fugios over the yers. seems likely that I will end up with some more of them.
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Wow! You plan to acquire both strawberry leaf varieties. That is some feat as the NC-2 is unique and the NC-3 encompasses the other 3 examples with one unavailable as it sits in the ANS Museum. I think the last person to own both strawberry leaf varieties was the late Dan Holmes who owned a staggering 52 of 53 of the Sheldon NC varieties. The NC varieties were those designated by William Sheldon as Non-Collectible due to their rarity. Dan Holmes was also the first person to sell a large cent for over $1 million in 2009 - the 1795 reeded edge S-79 in VG10, the finest of 8 known. Kudos to you for setting your sights to the sky in terms of your collecting goals.  Here is the realized price list for the 2009 sale of Dan Holmes' 52 Non-Collectible Large Cent varieties 1793-1803: https://gammillnumismaticsllc.com/2...-collection/IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
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want to might be more appropriate than plan to. I'm working on the sheldon set (need ~84 coins) with ncs (46 to go) and the newcomb middle dates (8 left). I may not get there. some of the coins are seriously tough, and the sheer quantity of coins with like 10-100 existing examples presents a significant challenge. the unique one (1793 nc-2) probably wont be sold in the near future. it is owned by someone with a kid that is also into large cent varieties. the kid has kids who, while still young, like daddys big pennies. there is a very real chance that it wont be sold again in my lifetime. ill just have to cherrypick one  Dan Holmes used to carry his strawberry leafs around in his pocket. he thought it was great fun to toss them at people and watch as they fumbled over the coins and lost their minds. i was a bit surprised the reeded edge 1795 didnt make the list of top 100 coins. its a much bigger deal than the 1794 starred reverse. its arguably a bigger deal than the strawberry leaf. being the hardest sheldon variety is a big feather in its cap. |
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Thanks for sharing your Holmes anecdote. I think you need to start a thread for Sheldon NC large cent varieties showing your seven coins in this rarified group. Have a feeling that it's gonna be awesome.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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sure, I think I can put that together. thats a fun idea for a thread.
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I decided to listen to you all and pick up a graded example. I'm a little embarassed at the grade because numismatic student is chasing an MS FB...but I'm pretty proud to have one. One of my entries into the top 100 greatest U.S coins at #65 My 1916-D smat   |
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Excellent pickup! As to the grade, my requirements when I got mine was to not have that "worn disk" look missing the rims. So mine is similar to yours and I am happy and proud to have it.
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Fantastic! The one I end up with will certainly be an even lower grade.  |
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That is a fantastic milestone coin. Thank you for sharing it with us smat. I can tell that you chose this coin carefully to be among the best in eye appeal within the grade. I hope to join you soon as an owner of this great numismatic hallmark. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
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