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New Member
United States
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This time sharing before I consider purchasing: cleaned and ED? What grade and price would you consider fair for this coin? Thanks!   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I would never even consider buying this coin raw. Period.
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New Member
 United States
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Ok, but why not? Teach me, obi-wan.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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As the frog points out, are you sure this coin is authentic? If you are not an expert you should avail yourself of one. It certainly looks cleaned with huge chunks of its surfaces missing. Can't begin to value it without knowing it is real. Slabbing is a cheap way to do that. Working with a knowledgeable dealer may be another way. Put another way, not every coin that has a 1798 date was made in that year.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
12/03/2021 10:40 pm
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New Member
United States
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With the damage to the obverse, I wouldn't have considered buying this coin. The reverse crack is also suspicious, at least to me.
What book do ya'll recommend for the draped bust and earlier large cents other than Sheldon?
Thanks!
Edited by sh521932
12/03/2021 10:50 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The book is a good approach after you spend 10,000 hours reading it and doing everything else you need to do to become become an expert. Malcolm Gladwell says that's what it takes. If you don't sleep or do anything else, you can do it in 1.14 years. If not, it takes much longer. If you can wait until you have developed the expertise, it may be 4-5 years of intense study to become an expert on these and you may then know enough to pick a great coin. Most people just buy slabbed or work with an expert because they have lives to live.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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United States
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its a 1798 cent not 99. that die crack on reverse id's it as a S- 166
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Germany
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Good catch, jerryc39. It's an S-166, one of the most common 1798's...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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its a 1798 cent not 99. that die crack on reverse id's it as a S- 166 I thought I recognized that reverse crack!! I would not buy a corroded large cent of this significant price without it being slabbed. I am a raw coin kind of guy, but large cents are tricky. It is easier to tell authenticity on a BU cent as opposed to a barely recognizable corroded cent. I would save the ache and buy a slabbed example, even though they are more pricey. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I certainly wouldn't berate the OP for buying this coin, which is typically corroded but has quite a bit of remaining detail.
Of course it all depends on what he pays for it, but unless the price is outrageous it seems like a perfectly reasonable acquisition to me. I'd say $40-$65 might be fair.
This is apparently the most common single variety of 1798 cent --- S-166, style 2 hair. But the date does seem a little unusual.
Weighing the coin is a great way to build some confidence in its authenticity. It should be something a bit less than 10.89 grams.
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Bedrock of the Community
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although the rev die crack says S-166 that date does not look correct as previously noted. PASS-A-ROO on this one
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Canada
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Doesn't look genuine to me.
Pass on it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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There are so many great books out on Large Cents these days, I still recommend the Notes books not cheap but some of the best photography and the census is still relevant even years alter as the top tier coins haven't really changed much nor have many new ones appeared since. The full set of books will set you back over $600 though. https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ch...s-26794.aspxBe sure to re-click on the Half & Large Cent link on the upper left side to refresh and you should see the set of books or individuals. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
12/05/2021 2:05 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Opps I meant to say "Noyes Books" Not Notes Books. DOH, waited too long to edit it as well.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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