1965 SMS Kennedy Half Dollar Doubled Die Obverse / DDO Doubled Die Reverse / DDR

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gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/02/2022 10:48 pm Still trying to figure out if this is the FS-801 Since that is the only one listed with both DDO and DDR. Right Dot Edited by gsp193 02/02/2022 10:49 pm Report this Post to the Staff

coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/03/2022 2:15 pm Looks like a SMS half. Report this Post to the Staff
gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/03/2022 3:33 pm @coop ...Yes it came out of a SMS set. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96989 Posts	Posted 02/03/2022 3:53 pm Well, I can see split serifs on the W and T of 'We Trust' Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/03/2022 4:31 pm Thanks Dearborn, Heres couple more from obverse. Both serifs of the W which are light, both serifs of the S, both serifs of the U both T's and the tip of the 5 the tip of the inner loop of the 9 and on reverse mostly the outer ring of the stars along with the right dot that I can see. I am still trying to figure out pics with all the tips from everyone. By the time I get them uploaded they are way darker and not as sharp. Thanks for looking Report this Post to the Staff
Earle42 Bedrock of the Community United States 10038 Posts	Posted 02/03/2022 4:53 pm Notching in the stars under STATES is pretty easy to see as well. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 Report this Post to the Staff
atrox001 Valued Member United States 311 Posts	Posted 02/03/2022 5:54 pm The FS-50-1965-801 is the CONECA listed 65SMS DDO-004/DDR-001...Your photos don't match it. See a few photos of the DDO-004/DDR-001 below. The doubling you show on the stars under STATES looks very interesting, it might be the CONECA listed 65SMS DDR-003, see below a photo of the marker for the DDR-003, a die scratch on the rim above the U in UNITED. Report this Post to the Staff
gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/03/2022 6:15 pm Thanks Earle42 and atrox001 ....In hand the R and U looks like the photo above but the S on this one has notching on both serif's...and both T's have notching. I will check again for any die markers listed when I get home but I dont think I was able to see it when I was checking the different listed DDR's. Thanks for looking! Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 02/03/2022 8:24 pm I will answer because I relax my exponent. you state SMS, OK with this , but you do the light test? The SMS it is the precursor of the proof and cameo. Must give round light move look the height strike always show with height forms Report this Post to the Staff
gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/03/2022 9:08 pm silviosi it was in this SMS set. Heres a few more pics atrox001 there is a die scratch but it is to the right of where the marker is supposed to be. Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 02/04/2022 01:21 am What you show me it is a select set of uncirculated coins, not the SMS. 1968 SMS was only in slabs. The mint denomination for S. S on those envelopes do not mean SMS. It is far from SMS. To understand more: The SMS has a dully apparent flat back which when we bros around the light will high light the high relief. This is it is the SMS. Was only max 600 sets, which was not confirm yet. Never the SMS sets leave for the public. what it sell on deferent channels, are not legitimate. Edited by silviosi 02/04/2022 01:50 am Report this Post to the Staff
gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/04/2022 01:55 am @silviosi....Far as I know this is what the set was called in 1965 since they did not issue a mint or proof set, only a Special Mint Set (SMS) with a better finish than a regular mint strike but not as good as a what a proof strike would be. Check out this 1965 50C SMS on PCGS CoinFacts https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin/detail/6845 Report this Post to the Staff
Ty2020b Pillar of the Community United States 4680 Posts	Posted 02/04/2022 02:00 am Quote: What you show ne it is a select set of uncirculated coins, not the SMS. 1968 SMS was only in slabs. The mint denomination for S. S on those envelopes do not mean SMS. It is far from SMS. this is a 65 SMS, the packaging the OP pictured is the original packaging for 1965. 100% an SMS. Edit: I concur with DDR-003. Looks like Stage B, MDS. Edited by Ty2020b 02/04/2022 02:06 am Report this Post to the Staff
gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/04/2022 02:18 am Thankyou Ty2020b! Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 02/04/2022 02:18 am I will put here the official SMS 65 Sorry guys but the reality it is what it is, Edited by silviosi 02/04/2022 02:19 am Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 02/04/2022 02:40 am Please stop to guess. Here attached it is the official shipping of the mint. If you do not believe go to the Mint archive. Report this Post to the Staff
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1965 SMS Kennedy Half Dollar DDO DDR