A Few 1925-D 2+ Feather And A Couple 2++ F Buffalo Nickel Examples

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1buff2many Valued Member United States 92 Posts	Posted 02/04/2022 10:34 pm I was prompted by seeing @Ty2020b's really great ongoing 2 Feather and 2+ Feather thread and reference sheets http://goccf.com/t/415635#3577157 to photograph 3 examples that I have for the 1925-D Buffalo nickels that I believe fit the description well for the 2+ Feather variety and 2 others which have a bit more of the 3rd feather maybe we can call them 2++ feather variety. They are all lower grade examples but I would very much appreciate any opinions or thoughts on them. First example 2+ Feather Second example 2+ Feather Third example 2+ Feather Although well worn as @Ty2020b mentioned I think all 3 come from the same die pair with significant abrasion of the 3rd feather especially near the neck and hairline, more faint remnant of designer "F" initial, weak front neck line due to polishing and weakness between nose and browline. Also, I think the D mint mark is positioned high and centered like the nice graded examples in @Ty2020b's reference sheet. The next two (4 and 5) have more of the 3rd feather but I think clearly abraded maybe call it 2++ Feather and I believe these are from a different die pair and not an early die state of the 2+ F examples above. Even though there is stronger designer initial and front neckline, at least to my eye there seems to be much more abrasion between the nose and browline, maybe enough to consider a "broken nose" variety but open to thoughts on that. Also, on the reverse the D mint mark is in a different lower position and shifted more towards the E and a die clash on the E Pluribus Unum. 4th example maybe 2++ Feather 5th example maybe 2++ Feather (date is very weak and didn't show up well in my pictures but can be seen in person with loupe and right light angle) Appreciate any thoughts or other opinions on these. Thanks Edited by 1buff2many 02/05/2022 12:39 am Report this Post to the Staff

Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 02/04/2022 10:45 pm Please only show one coin per thread. Otherwise replies get confusing. to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
Dorado Bedrock of the Community Canada 24885 Posts	Posted 02/04/2022 10:50 pm To the Forum. Report this Post to the Staff
Ty2020b Pillar of the Community United States 4680 Posts	Posted 02/05/2022 02:43 am Very nice those first 3 definitely fit the bill for the 2+F, all the same die pair. I think posting multiple coins is fine for a thread like this, gives a good comparison, IMO. The last two are both very interesting and share the same die pair as well (different from the known 2+F). I agree, too much feather to be called even a 2+F, but definitely some attenuation there. Also worth noting, both look to be BN (Broken nose) varieties. Separation from the bridge of the nose to brow is noticeable. Curious what later die states looked like on this pair, if there was any additional polishing done it could have abraded that 3rd feather further. Further Die Deterioration itself could also weaken the appearance of the 3rd feather, even without further polishing. Another possible 25-D die pair out there? Thanks for sharing. Report this Post to the Staff
jadenusa Valued Member United States 187 Posts	Posted 02/05/2022 09:28 am Agree with TY, much better seeing them all in the same post for comparison vs five separate ones. Based on the PCGS example MS63 it looks like a little of the 3rd feather does show, so I'd vote the first three samples as good to go! Report this Post to the Staff
1buff2many Valued Member United States 92 Posts	Posted 02/05/2022 11:04 pm Thanks so much for the feedback @Ty2020b and @jadenusa. @Ty2020b it is an interesting thought about Die Deterioration and impacts on the 3rd feather, maybe if we see some better condition examples with that die pair it will help with that. Report this Post to the Staff
sheldius Pillar of the Community United States 1204 Posts	Posted 02/06/2022 10:19 am I agree with TY and Jadenusa. All three of the first examples would probably grade as a "2 feather" by PGS. Even the best examples have some of the 3rd feather. You can check on 1925 D on page C21 of Pope's book. https://archive.org/details/buffalo...n49/mode/2up Report this Post to the Staff
sheldius Pillar of the Community United States 1204 Posts	Posted 02/06/2022 10:23 am It also looks like the "F" is pretty worn in - even more than circulation would account for - in all the examples shown and in the book. That might be a good marker as well. Report this Post to the Staff
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