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I am taking a look at this 1923 Buff and I think it meets the criteria for a two feathers variety. What do you think?   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Can you crop and enlarge the obverse pic?
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Pillar of the Community
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Rest in Peace
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Affirmative , 2 feathers .  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Dunno, still seems to be a trace of it there.
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Pillar of the Community
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Dunno, still seems to be a trace of it there.  There is something there |
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I will try to crop it and resubmit. Thanks for input.
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Yeah there's something there but it sure don't look like the third feather .  |
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1923 is THE toughest date in the 2 Feather "series". There is a small trace of the 3rd feather in known examples. Sharper pics would help determine if yours is indeed a 2 Feather. I would lean towards yes, but it may also be just a die polishing away. It's does display the clashed eyeball and weaker 19 in the date, but die state looks a tad earlier than the very limited examples I've seen. It's in better shape than the example I have though! If it is a 2 feather, then consider me jealous  |
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can we get a close-up of the 'third feather' area?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Can't hurt, but I think it's pretty clear there's still a trace there. Mind you, that may well be tolerable for a 2-feather, I have no idea.
Edited by Coinfrog
06/24/2022 7:28 pm
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This is the close up.  |
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It is a tough call on the hardest to find 2 feather, it is close if not there, as Ty2020b mentioned it might be just a die polish away. Besides the markers Ty2020b mentioned the state of the front of the neck is a near perfect match IMO to the PCGS pictured example. There are just so few pictured examples it makes it tough to know what kind of variability the TPGs will allow with this one, plus Jadenusa's recent experience with what looked like a clear 2F coming back without the designation. Either way a great example in nice condition with a clearly abraded 3rd feather and extremely hard to locate date, thanks so much for sharing the pictures.
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If you're interested in selling it, I suspect you'd have a lot of interested buyers on ebay. Nice find! Roll or bulk lot? |
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Bulk lot. Going through my dads collection,
Pretty amazing some of the stuff he has. Don't know how he did it.
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According to Ron Pope (Abraded Die Varieties), there are two different 1923 dies with abraded third feathers. The first die pair also is a DDO with doubling noticeable as extra thickness on the bottom of the "9" and "3" in the date. This die pair has no trace of the third feather. Pope considers the first die pair to be "a true 2F variety" and states that it is the pair in the most demand. The second die pair does not have doubling on the obverse, and has some trace of the third feather remaining. He noted that an MS-64 example of Die Pair 2 sold on ebay for $500 in 2009. I suspect that your coin is from the second die pair, but I can't get a clear enough view of the date to rule in or out the doubling. If there is doubling, it likely would be an earlier die state of the first die pair, in which case it probably would not be considered a true two feather. |
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