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Valued Member
Indonesia
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Good day folks... My best wishes for all of us. My apologize for my late update. I've been a bit swamped with customers this week. So here we go, this 1971-S Ike dollar I have mentioned on my 1978 Ike dollar. I think is better I start a new topic about this. As @Dearborn ask me to show the image how it's stick with magnet. Note: I just saw the video by spegtaculer on youtube, he was testing the ASE using somekind a magnetic plat. And other tool (i can't hear clearly, I'm in coffee shop now) Have a cup a coffe folks, I hope someday  @Jbuck, @silviosi here are some pic of my 1971-S Ike dollar. This image from the seller:         Diameter 38.1mm Thickess: Less than 2.58mm (by comparing with 1878 Morgan) Weight: Less than 20g. Thank you for your valuable time to read and help me on this case. @silviosi thank you for encourage me not too early to judge this Ike is fake. Thank you again. Solo |
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Moderator
 United States
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It is a counterfeit.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
If you like counterfeits, that's got to be a toughie.
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Moderator
United States
34430 Posts |
@solo, since this coin should not attract a magnet, I agree you should assume it is counterfeit. Can you please add the weight of this piece? Thx.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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United States
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Agreed, it should not stick to a magnet like that (even if it were just plated) but the S MM does look very wrong when compared to an authentic IKE.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Not only the MM is complete out of the original, also the digits of the date.
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Valued Member
United States
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Not only the MM is complete out of the original, also the digits of the date. I would agree with that. Here's an honest question, solo. Given that you posted pics from the seller, do you mind if I ask what prompted you to buy the coin? And I'm asking as a guy who's kicked himself after a few purchases. |
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Valued Member
 Indonesia
147 Posts |
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I would agree with that.
Here's an honest question, solo. Given that you posted pics from the seller, do you mind if I ask what prompted you to buy the coin? And I'm asking as a guy who's kicked himself after a few purchases. He's in my hand now Mr.cladboy @silviosi Quote:
Not only the MM is complete out of the original, also the digits of the date. Agree with you, the upper hook of MM look bigger. But, back again... and IKE's dollars was a short 9 years (exclude the 1970 and 1975) strike and not so many fake was find. And finnaly I found one sir. @Dearborn, Quote:
Agreed, it should not stick to a magnet like that (even if it were just plated) but the S MM does look very wrong when compared to an authentic IKE. Also when we comparing the rims sir. @Spence, Quote:
since this coin should not attract a magnet, I agree you should assume it is counterfeit. Can you please add the weight of this piece? Thx. I'll post the image as soon as possible Mr. Spence.  @Coinfrog, Quote:
If you like counterfeits, that's got to be a toughie. I will keep him Mr.Coinfrog, I hope it didn't happened to others. @nss-52 Quote:
It is a counterfeit. Truthfully, yes sir... the good things is I only paid this for less than $4. There is a price for knowledge. And still, it's a coin however with Mr. David Dwight Eisenhower engraved. Although it is just a counterfeit, maybe it's a magician tools.  Thank you for your concerning on this case. I will post the weight ASAP. Have a good day. Solo |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Solo you are in Indonesia, the portal of the fake coins. Is what it is and we have to accept the reality. Majority of those coins come in your country from China because from Indonesia they can sell in any country. In China is forbidding to export fake coins.
For me is funny to do a fake on IKE which it is not an top price coin. They do, they do and many collectors will like to have an fake instead of an original which could be harder to have.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10635 Posts |
The seller of this counterfeit coin would be in trouble by the US Treasury Dept. if caught.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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For me is funny to do a fake on IKE which it is not an top price coin. They do, they do and many collectors will like to have an fake instead of an original which could be harder to have. Fake Ikes - the true rarities. That could open up a whole new world of possibilities for us Ike collectors. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree on this being a counterfeit coin, the strike/details/composition of the coin in question is undoubtedly wrong. Interesting.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If a coin is plated with nickel, it could be slightly attracted to a magnet. But not like a steel cent that jumps to a magnet. So if it jumps to a magnet, it maybe a steel coin. The surface could be rough if they cast the coin in sand:  But the reeds would not look normal on a cast coin:  So I'm leaning more towards a plated coin on the coin. (plating turns the coin into a spender) CoopHome: Counterfeit detection? What could have happened? plated coins are just face value coins as the original surface was removed |
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United States
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I am late to the discussion I apologize, but I agree that this is very likely a counterfeit Ike.  I cannot see any reason for someone to nickel plate a legitimate silver coin. It would only reduce its value. However, anything is possible. Counterfeit or plated, the end result is the same. This is not an Ike you should want in your main collection. |
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Valued Member
Indonesia
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Observe:  Reverse:    This picture taken using iphone. Solo |
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Valued Member
Indonesia
147 Posts |
I don't know it is a fake or not. Altough as @Mr.silviosi said Indonesia is the portal for the counterfeit coin. The counterfeit is real. By the way, I try to overlaying this Ike with Peace dollar. It's my coriousity based on some slight marks that is appears on the surface of this Ike. Though there is a lot of unussual things on this Ike, the wieght is only 19.81g (my thought is it was using old Peace dollar coin, by removing the image, and that's why this Ike loose his weigh) and this Ike attracted to magnet.    Based on the overlaying image, I assume this 'counterfeit' has the Peace dollar pattern If it's was Pareidolia the pattern will not connect to the other area. How about the reverse? I just found very fine mark on the reverse. Some mark of 'E' from WE on the observe of Peace dollar. The position in under the eagle tail. Once again, it is just my assumption. This coins loose his weigh because someone using the old Peace dollar coin. And have to erase the image so only small pattern still left. Maybe it's sounds stupid or silly. My apoligize for all of you gentlemen. Maybe my theory is the most ridiculous theory ever. Solo  |
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