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Visited Five Coin Shops In Milan Today (4/03/2023).

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Hello everyone,

Arrived in Milan this afternoon and visited five shops...

Four of the five were typically terrible:

1) high end antique buyer ... Loads of display cases filled with heinously overpriced antiques; armed guard at the door... I was buzzed in and the man at the desk showed me two 1988 ASEs and a 64 Kennedy half. He weighed them and told the the three were €150! In Italian, I told him we weren't close; he asked how much I pay, I said €25 each on the eagles (I get these for €28-30 in Rome weekly) and €8 on the half. I then told him if he sells KHDs at €50, I could bring him 200 next week for half and he could make a fortune. He said no... He'd pay me €2 and told me that the building, guard, etc costs money. I left.

2) second shop ... Guy had a few 2023 ASEs at €50.

3) shop straight from the 70s... I imagine... Guy grunted at me and said he only has Italian coins. I asked what about the french coins in the window. He said only Italian. I left.

4) didn't exist despite Google maps saying otherwise.

5) last shop....I asked about american coins. The guy pulls out a box and pulls out a Franklin. I asked how much and told him depending on the price I would take everything he has. He said all halves at €7... So below are what I bought for €235...
1 21 Morgan
2 Franklin halves
3 walking liberty including a slicked 1917
1 merc dime
2 Washington quarters
1 1982 washington proof half dollar
24 Kennedy halves including about 4 Denver mints.

He told me, clearly, that his box gets sent to the refiners every two months. These would all have been melted.

I assume €7 is more than the melters pay.

Curious first afternoon in Milan. I think I have exhausted the coin shops but I'll check him again on Friday.

Thanks for listening... Like my Florence story, this forum appreciates these anecdotes more than my wife! Haha

Best,

R.




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Wow, fantastic deal, Roma! If he sends his "box" to the refiner every 2 months, I would go back in six weeks!
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nice save of silver from the infernal furnace.
however, I'm curious about that 1982 washington proof half dollar
can you post up a close up of this one? both sides?
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Nice save from the melt monster!!!!
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Very nice buy, go back again?
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@roma, can't remember off the top of my head whether I visited any shops in Milan when I was there last summer, but I did in Bologna. See this evergreen thread for info on coins shops around the world:

https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...IC_ID=261670

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Thanks everyone.

@dearborn - he wasn't sure about the 82 half and neither was I but it worked out like
29 x 7 = €203
Morgan = €20
Quarters x 2 = €8
Merc = €2
Quarter = €2 to get us to a €235 vs €233

I'd go back every week if I could but it's a 3 hour train from Rome.

I'm here until Saturday and I will certainly be back in before then.

He has some large silver world coins in the box too...

I can't get the d*mn capsule open...but here it is...


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Good travelogue, thanks!
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Persistence pays off. Nice score!
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Fun report--great read. Someone should visit a major US metro area and report on coin shops found therein.
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I enjoy reading about your US coin adventures in Italy.

That 1982-S Washington half is indeed 90% silver. It is the first US commemorative coin in the 'Modern Series' and was at the time the first commemorative coin issued since the final Carver/Washington coin in 1954.
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Thanks everyone!

I appreciate that you all appreciate these anecdotes. The nuance of these exchanges are lost on most people.

What I find particularly strange is that in every Italian city I visit I get a lot of shops treating me like I have never seen or handled an American (or any) coin before. I'm treated like a provincial rube. I get offered €50 KHDs a lot. But I have always managed to find a shop that sells to me in at fair retail (€30 Morgans), some below retail (€8 halves), and at least one, like yesterday, in every Italian city, that will wholesale (below €7 halves) if I take everything.

Most of the coins I buy come from the melt bin. I have no idea how much american silver is melted here, but I bought the dealer out yesterday; two months of walk in American silver. That is one shop, on one side street, in one city in Europe...

I also cannot imagine american coins are entering the market here. If dealers are selling to me at €7-8 they aren't importing; those halves must have been here as a part of a collection or a collector's world silver or a stacker taking profit.

Curious if 90% u.s. silver will run out here.

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what a great score & nice save!
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Thank you so much for saving these historical American coins from being melted and lost forever!
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