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Here's another one at 35% (1897 Dominican Republic medio peso)   |
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It bothered me that I didn't have the Mexico 1950 1 Peso to fill out my .300 types, so the situation was remedied. Seller's pics.  Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Nice pesos, Ariette and Hondo Boguss!  Quote:
In that medieval French (and Low Countries) system we have been discussing a purity of "4 deniers" comes out to 0.319 or 32%, which we are missing thus far.
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Or erafjel will find a French coin at this composition? I don't have one, but there certainly are a number of medieval French coins that hit 4 d. argent-le-roi, while dwindling to lower and lower fineness  . Here is a Charles VIII dizain: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces34529.html |
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I have been really busy since I last posted here, but here is a coin I can post: German States Prussia 1873-A 2-1/2 silber groschen and according to Numista has a silver content of 37.5% or rounds to 38%    Edited by mrwhatisit
12/25/2023 2:13 pm
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Nice one, mrwhatisit!
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Here's another one at 35% (1897 Dominican Republic medio peso) Sweet! It's amazing how spread out across time and place these are. Quote:
German States Prussia 1873-A 2-1/2 silber groschen ... silver content of 37.5% or rounds to 38%  I KNEW we would get that composition! I think that puts us at 7 for this "decade" and 28 compositions since we began. Edited by tdziemia
12/25/2023 9:59 pm
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1966 Finland 1 markka (35% silver)  |
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Hehehe Trig, I just bought the exact same coin and date from a dealers lot of mixed foreign coins a few days ago as accidental silver as the dealer had no idea that this coin has silver. Bonus: this 1966 markka is in gem uncirculated condition...  |
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Collectors of 16th century dated coins will recognize this one. Polish and Lithuanian half groats were struck at a composition of 0.375 (38%) from the 1390s to 1557 (from 1558 the composition dropped slightly). The Polish version has a crown on one side and an eagle on the other, was undated until the reign of Sigismund I, then dated 1507-1510. The Lithuanian type has a knight and eagle. Dated versions were struck most years from 1509 to 1566 (though the composition dropped a bit in 1558).   Edited by tdziemia
12/26/2023 08:06 am
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Here's my own half-groat, a different subtype, dated 1522. Numista doesn't mention a silver content for this type, so I wasn't aware it was known...   |
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I need to get some of this info added in Numista.
In Gumowski, Table i, p. 205 the weight and composition speciifications for most of the coins struck under Sigismund I are listed.
The Polish and Lithuanian half groats are both 6/16ths pure.
If I recall, you might have a "crown" ternar from the late 1520s (not Lobsenz which was some kind of contract mint) which is at 3/16ths.
Denars struck from 1526 are 1 1/2 / 16ths.
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12/26/2023 3:15 pm
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Here are my two .375 half groats One Sigismund and one Alexander   Received them a couple of years ago from a forum member in the Holiday Exchange. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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12/26/2023 2:13 pm
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If I recall, you might have a "crown" ternar from the late 1520s (not Lobsenz which was some kind of contract mint) which is at 3/16ths.
Denars struck from 1526 are 1 1/2 / 16ths. Poznan 1616 (the crown type, which isn't in Krause AFAIK). Mine honestly doesn't look like it could be anywhere near as much as 19% silver. I think we've discussed it before... AFAIK just two 16th century "Polish" denars in my collection: 1550s Lithuania (last digit of date illegible) and 1556 Gdansk. The Lithuanian one doesn't look this low in silver, the Gdansk... maybe. I've gone through most of my non-uploaded pics; found another 64% (this is an unaccountably frequent silver content), another 0.3125, and a few more 0.500 options. Also a bunch of (mostly) German States coins with no purity listed on Numista, and one 18th century Polish coin where every date of the type has a different Numista page, only one of them had a listed purity (0.300), and the date on my coin looks illegible. Unfortunately it appears that most of the coins I photographed between 2018 and 2022 are ancients - I apparently never got around to taking pics of most of my 18th and 19th century coins. (And now they're all in Moscow.) EDIT: here's my Alexander...   An interesting design, with the horse's head and legs protruding from the circle. I wonder why they did that. Edited by january1may
12/26/2023 3:19 pm
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Sorry @j1m ... I realized after I wrote that we had discussed a Sigismund III ternar (not SIgismund I). Indeed, I don't have a spec for that in the table I am referring to, but I think in that discussion I mentioned that the schillings started Sigismund's reign at 0.163 and were at 0.125 starting 1623. Ternars would not have been higher, but could have been lower.
What's the 18th c. Polish coin?
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What's the 18th c. Polish coin? An ort (18 grosz) of August III. Not sure if it actually qualifies as Polish but it's certainly trying to be. I have a Sigismund III shilling from 1615, but it's from Riga so might be unrepresentative... the Numista page claimed that the Riga issues varied highly, though didn't mention composition specifically. |
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