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1896-S $20 Liberty For Grading Opinions

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What would you grade this well used $20 Liberty?

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 Posted 06/23/2024  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say VF.
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Haven't had much experience with these. Mid-VF seems about right.
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My concern would be that's it's genuine. Which it appears to be. $2250 in gold right now.

Yes, I'd guess it's VF+. The obverse reed mark is large and the surfaces show no luster. It's all in the gold.
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VF?!? There is luster on her!!

EF-45 minimum all day long.
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So my opinion would be that IF this grades out it would indeed be high VF but I am not sure it will grade out as I think that the scratch on the obverse at 7 o'clock is bad enough for the coin to be details as damaged. I am pretty confident CAC would call this coin damaged, but I think there is a reasonable chance PCGS and NGC would also do it because it seems as if the scratch actually runs from the 7 o'clock position all the way to the 5 o'clock position. I don't think it can be rejected as a bag ding but ironically if the details were G or F this probably would be ignored and graded as G in that context given this is 19th century just like cleanings are sometimes ignored for lower grade coins.
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@jacrispies seems to know more about these than the rest of us.
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I'm w/ jacrispies, I think this is an XF
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Purchased from APMEX in 2008 as an EF-45. Price was $940.
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nice increase!
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It would grade ~VF details damage (damage is on bottom left of obverse)
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