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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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I've previously posted about a possible 1965 replacement of George Washington's image on the United States Quarter Dollar coin with one of Douglas MacArthur (You can read it here: What If? 1965 General MacArthur Quarter), but it was not the only attempt to legislate a new image for the obverse of the 25-cent piece in 1965 - a likeness of President Lyndon Baines Johnson (LBJ) was also proposed for the coin. In July 1965, James Franklin Battin (R-MT) introduced an amendment to the Coinage Act of 1965 in the House of Representatives that would have mandated "that the quarter dollars therein authorized to be minted shall bear the likeness of President Lyndon Baines Johnson." The coin was to be struck on Copper-Nickel (CuNi) Clad planchets. Note: It's always struck me as a bit odd that a Republican Representative from Montana would propose that a living Democratic Party President be featured on a US circulation coin. It's made me wonder about a possible "Thank You" gesture on Battin's part that stemmed from a political favor bestowed by LBJ to Battin. Each was involved with Bobby Baker's exclusive "Quorum Club" in Washington, DC - maybe some connection/exchange was made there away from public scrutiny. All conjecture on my part, but the coin proposal's circumstances are intriguing to me and lead me to speculate!)The amendment was referred to the House Committee on Banking and Currency. Johnson was sworn in as the 36th President of the United States on November 22, 1963, following the assassination of John F. Kennedy; he was sworn in onboard Air Force One in Dallas, Texas. Soon after Kennedy's assassination, efforts were initiated in the US Congress to honor the fallen President by placing his portrait on a US coin. Johnson strongly supported this effort and advocated for Congress to authorize such a coin. The Quarter Dollar amendment, however, did not gain traction in Congress, and was not reported out of Committee for further consideration. George Washington survived another challenge! Approximately 50 years after what would have been the launch of the LBJ Quarter, Johnson appeared on the Presidential $1 coin; his issue was released in 2015. (Personally, I've never thought the $1 coin presents a good likeness of LBJ, but I'm not familiar with the artist's source/reference material.) 2015 Presidential $1 Series - Lyndon B. Johnson (Image Credit: US Mint media image.)IMO, replacing Washington with LBJ on the Quarter Dollar would have been a step backwards. I'm not trying to disparage President Johnson, but the proposal to change the obverse design of the US Quarter Dollar seems to have been driven more by in-the-moment emotions than long-term historical significance/legacy. I believe that more time would have been needed to gain proper perspective before making such a significant change to US coinage. I think Congress' inaction was the proper move. For other of my posts about commemorative coins and medals, including other What If? stories, see: Commems Collection. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Pillar of the Community
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Oh my !  What an OUTSTANDING database. Now I have plenty of reading time.. Thank you! 
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
  United States
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@CoinForMe: Enjoy!
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Concur this would have been an unwise move to make in 1965. Thanks for sharing the story! Quote: Now I have plenty of reading time. Yes indeed you do. A person can spend a lot of enjoyable hours reading the legacy of scholarship @commems has gifted to us.
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Interesting post. Thanks for that.
I do have to wonder how LBJ being put on a coin would not have contravened existing law (the Thayer amendment, et al.). McArthur had died in 1964, so he would have been cleared for it, but not LBJ.
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Very interesting and thank you for sharing. I am glad it did not gain any traction. We would do better moving back to Liberty than shifting to another president, living or dead. With the dollar series, every president has had their coin or will get one eventually. Carter should be next year.
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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Quote: I do have to wonder how LBJ being put on a coin would not have contravened existing law (the Thayer amendment, et al.) It would not have gone against then-current US coin law. The Thayer amendment was specific to fiscal paper (i.e., paper notes, paper fractional currency, postal currency, bonds and securities) it did not specify/include provisions regarding coins; coins are addressed in other laws. The US commemorative coin series has made use of this "loophole" on multiple occasions. You can read more here: Quick Bits #07 - Alive And Well (At The Time!).
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Pillar of the Community
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I could not remember a modern President less worthy then LBJ to be put on a coin. *** Edited by Staff - The bad word filter is in place for a reason. Bypassing the filter and making the intended word obvious anyway is completely unacceptable. ****** Edited by Staff - Please review the rules that you agreed to when you registered. ***
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@Silverskunk - I respect your right to have an opinion of LBJ - but I say the wording in your post is not appropriate for a family friendly forum.
I'm going to ask a Moderator to clean up your post.
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@sil, you gotta save this rhetoric for some other website. This is a forum for discussing coins not politics. Thx.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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It always disappoints me when one of my educational threads serves as a catalyst for political rants. Such is never my intent.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Valued Member
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@commems: speaking as a noob on this forum, your apology is noted but not required IMHO. I've already had some discussions about the boundaries, and the guidance is easy enough to follow. On the one hand, the line can get fuzzy given the overlap of coins/money, politics, history and economics, and yet it seems not terribly difficult to stay on the right side of the line. I'm glad to participate in a place where these boundaries are set and respected. But it's really up to each individual to pause before posting, and ask ourselves, "Have I got this right?"
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Quote: ...the line can get fuzzy given the overlap of coins/money, politics, history and economics, and yet it seems not terribly difficult to stay on the right side of the line... and ask ourselves, "Have I got this right?" Quick test for me is this: If I can determine who you voted for in the last election, you said too much. 
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