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Code Breaking For Silver! (Act III)

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 Posted 06/26/2009  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hint # 18:

"I'm Captain Wild Bill Kelso, United States Army Air Corps. Where the hell am I?"
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Are ya all giving up? Do I need to give a give away clue?
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Fake letters and words make codes incredibly difficult to decrypt. I still have not figured out how a set of 4 letters is actually encrypting. Maybe you could give an unrelated sentence in code and cleartext?
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Hint #19: The code words that are to be used in the code decipher are different (in some way) than the code words that are not to be used. (The words tell you whether you should use them or not... by this difference)

Hint # 20: Looking at the decipher grid, one can see that two letters are to be used to find the single letter one is looking for. Therefore, the other two TELL you whether to use those two words or not.

Hint # 21: The decipher grid is 25 x 25 x 25 (which answers hint #1 15625. 25 x 25 x 25= 15625)

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Ok - Thats a better hint. Will guess soon.
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I spoke to soon - I thought I was close. I take it the first word is not "cthrxi" or "cbtWhURTXTIA".

I should be using a Vigenère cipher right? Did I miss a key word?
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No, it is not a Vigenère cipher. I'm not sure I could do one of those.

Nod2003 described this as a Bifed code/cipher.

I'm no spy and I don't know these terms.

I devised this encoding and apparently it works!

You are definitely getting close. Many of the letters were close/included in your deciphering.

(Large) Hint # 22: The first word of the code is "This"

****Slight change to the rules****

I would like the decoder to explain the encoding in order to win the Morgan. (i.e., the code should be broken in order to win, versus a lucky guess. It just seems the right way to me and more fair to the people working the code.)
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change of rules during the game?
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gmherps13 wrote:



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change of rules during the game?



Well, since no one has guessed the encoded message, I don't see a problem with a change.

And the point of the contest is to break the code (hence the name of the contest). I think it's fairer to the folks trying to break the code versus those who are doing aerobic Google searches trying to find the quote.

(If everyone does NOT want to change the rules, let me know. I personally think it's a good change.)

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change of rules during the game?


It's Moe's contest and its his right. His rule change is very reasonable.
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Hear, hear!
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Thank you to my supporters!

Just for that, I'll give you more hints:

Hint # 22: The first 2 words of the quote are "This is"

Hint # 23: Do you all remember what the 25 x 25 x 25 grid I used on the last code looked like? ... It may help here...

Hint # 24: Do you all remember what movie Wild Bill Kelso was in? (The name of the movie MAY be the year of the quote...)
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Nod2003 wrote:


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I still have not figured out how a set of 4 letters is actually encrypting.


I'm not sure what you mean.

Just to be clear...

Encryption definition:


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In cryptography, encryption is the process of transforming information (referred to as plaintext) using an algorithm (called cipher) to make it unreadable to anyone except those possessing special knowledge, usually referred to as a key. The result of the process is encrypted information (in cryptography, referred to as ciphertext). In many contexts, the word encryption also implicitly refers to the reverse process, decryption, to make the encrypted information readable again (i.e. to make it un-encrypted).


And since I occasionally intermix the two words, here is the definition of encoding:



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Encoding is the process of transforming information from one format into another (usually to hide meaning from unauthorized users). The opposite operation is called decoding.


My encryption method seems to be holding up since no one has come forth with the correct decoding. (So, it might actually be some sort of encrypting...)



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My encryption method seems to be holding up since no one has come forth with the correct decoding. (So, it might actually be some sort of encrypting...)

Maybe this one should be called......The Never Ending Story II.
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or......It Came From Outer Space & Fried My Brain!
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