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 Posted 07/16/2009  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would spend a ratty common date verdigris wheat, and maybe a dateless Philly buffalo.
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 Posted 07/16/2009  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I spend Buffalo nickels on a pretty regular basis. Generally they're dateless examples, but occasionally I'll spend one that's dated if it's a common date and has some sort of other problem, like being dark or a little corroded. Surprisingly, very few cashiers have ever commented or even slowed down as they tossed it into their tray. I also use them pretty frequently in the Pepsi machine where I work.

I think it makes the Pepsi taste better...!
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...It also granted legal tender status to the Half Cent for the first time in US history.
This is interesting, Conder. Please expand on this! I seem to remember reading about (early) copper coins not being legal tender. If that is the case, when did the cent become legal tender?
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 Posted 07/16/2009  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lincolncollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting comments all....

I can understand not wanting to even spend culls from the 19th century. I would only do it if I knew the coin was not worth anything more than the face value.

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Is/was fractional currency legal tender?
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The cent was granted limited legal tender status in 1864 to the amount of ten cents. Act of April 22 1864 Sec 4. That same act created the twocent piece and gave it legal tener status to 20 cents.

So the early coppers, large cents and Half Cents, were not legal tender during the time they were being issued.

The pre-federal state coinages were also not legal tender except for I believe NJ which were only legal tender in that state of course.
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Would vending machines accept old coins from the 1800's and early 1900's?
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As I said, I use Buffalo nickels in our Pepsi machine at work all the time. Actually...there's a whole story about how the Buffalo nickel was almost delayed due to concern from the big vending machine company of the early 1900's, The Hobbes Company, because they felt that their vending machines might not work with Buffalo nickels like they did with the Liberty or "V" nickels.

Personally, I find it amazing that there WERE vending machines back in 1913!
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The first coin operated vending machine dates back over two thousand years.

And the Hobbes company was NOT a major vending machine company. They were actually a small wannabe company that had recently landed a government contract to supply the machines for some agency and they wanted to make sure their newfangled Counterfeit Detection mechanism worked with the new coins. They kept demanding changes to be made so a machine that wasn't even in production yet would work with the new coins. The other machine makers had not problems or made slight adjustments to their machines and they worked fine. Hobbes wanted the coin changed to match his machine. Even once he did get the machines into the marketplace they were a flop. They suffered frequent break downs and most locations that had them soon changed to his competitors machines. There are a couple of excellent sections on Hobbes and his batttles with the mint on both the Buffalo nickel and Mercury dime in RWB books Renassance of American Coinage 1909-1915, and 1916-1921.


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Would vending machines accept old coins from the 1800's and early 1900's?

Basically just the nickels (unless they are severely worn and underweight), and not the Shield nickels. Most modern machines won't work with the silver dimes and quarters because they are too heavy and they don't have the proper electromagnetic signature. (Coppernickel clad and 90% silver do not have the same signature. Back in 1965 the coin mechanisms were strictly mechanical and didn't check the signature so that was not a concern. That test was added years later after the silver was out of circulation. It only really became a concern when the Sac dollar came out because the machines had to be able to accept both the SBA and the Sac so they had to create an alloy that did match the signature of coppernickel.)
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Yep, I passed a dateless Indian Head cent and Buffalo 5 cent recently.
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I thought that once a coin was labeled "obsolete",it was no longer legal tender!!
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Someone was arrested for trying to spend a two dollar bill. Google "arrested for $2"
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I think it's a matter of if you can get away with it, I mean in spending an old coin. Whether it's legal tender or not, it all matters on if it will be accepted by the seller.
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http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp...CLE_ID=43685

Wow that is unbelievable. People should be educated on it a bit. I mean government officials not knowing is just flat out dumb.

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