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1944 No P Jefferson Nickel - Counterfeit ?

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Just found this. I'm pretty sure it's a fake. It weighs 5.2 grams-a bit heavy.
1944-No-P-Jefferson-Nickel---Counterfeit-?
1944-No-P-Jefferson-Nickel---Counterfeit-?
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 Posted 09/03/2009  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm...interesting
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 Posted 09/03/2009  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is one of the counterfeits produced by Francis LeRoy Henning in 1954. The absent mintmark and the loop visible in R of PLURIBUS are positive markers for this coin. Large numbers found their way into circulation and Henning dumped thousands into New Jersey's Copper River as the Feds closed in on his operation. He was convicted of counterfeiting, served 3 years in prison, and was assessed a $5,000 fine.

This is an excellent, cool find and is probably worth a lot more than an ordinary War Nickel. Congratulations!
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 Posted 09/03/2009  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it's counterfeit.
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Yes, Henning counterfeit nickel and strangely worth about $10-15- more than either the 1941 (from which it is derived) or the 1944P silver nickel. Go figure
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 Posted 09/03/2009  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool find! I remember seeing that broken R in PLURIBUS.
Here's a few pics to compare to yours.
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 Posted 09/03/2009  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for the info. I'd heard of Henning nickels before but really didn't know what they were. I guess this really was a cool find. It's true, you don't know what's gonna be in the next roll.
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 Posted 09/03/2009  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two thumbs up from here ....... that is an unusual piece of well documented US counterfeit history.

It's a keeper for sure.

David
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i wonder if the chinese will ever make counterfits of these counterfits
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Great find! Worth about $30 - $40 bucks these days.
Notice the hole in the R in PLURIBUS
That is the Henning for sure. http://www.numismaticenquirer.com/T...0Nickel.html

Apologies DVCollector I see you said about the same thing.
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why is it that we all complain about Chinese counterfeit coins but then we turn around and pay a premium for a Henning nickel?
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for one henning did it on his own not in a large production shop and he did a Nickel
the man had to be nuts

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Question about the Henning nickel. Were they struck in BU or were they all like the one I found. I was wondering if that one was circulating for 50+ years(seems unlikely) or has just been pulled out of someone's piggy bank ?
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Numismo's question is a good one; I really don't know. I just know I search all of the years that Henning's counterfeits were known to be dated as I go through all of my rolls, and I have never come across one. Very tough to find these; I'd love to find one!
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Didn't realize they had climbed to $30-40- WOW! Is that in circulated low grade?

I think Henning took circulated 1941 nickels and turned them into 1944. So I doubt there would be too many BU counterfeits out there, unless the circulated pieces he had were higher grade circs. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I had read it somewhere many years ago and don't know if I have the details right.

I have found exactly 1 in all my years of searching nickels.
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