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1972 5c Collectors?

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 Posted 01/21/2011  06:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thesandpit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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There are two types - a large and small reverse (echidna). The large is closer to the rim. I believe yours is the small. Its obvious when compared side by side, but I still have the occasional problem just looking at a single coin

"The large reverse is found on all issues from 1966 to 1972. The small reverse is found from 1972 to 1987 onwards" Macca's 2011 p116


Actually the echidna is the same size on all five cent pieces.
It is the position of the echidna that varies. I believe there are just two positions; high echidna and low echidna.
I had a look at them a year or two ago: http://www.thesandpit.net/index.php...ent_echidnas

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 Posted 01/22/2011  07:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnsopet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I just did a quick count of mintages from Maccas (p117). By my calculation there were 785,907,000 5 cent pieces minted before 1980.

Why would you even suggest that they are rarely found in circulation?


Yass in the real world there are very few pre 1980 5c in tills at shops
Banks may have bags of coins but I cannot get to them because of my job.
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 Posted 01/22/2011  08:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnsopet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Actually the echidna is the same size on all five cent pieces.
It is the position of the echidna that varies. I believe there are just two positions; high echidna and low echidna.
I had a look at them a year or two ago


Spot on sandpit,rotation is what I always understood to be the difference between large and small

1972 5c are now impossible to find in circulation,most pre 1980 5c are not commonly found in loose change as stated before by me
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 Posted 01/22/2011  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Yass in the real world there are very few pre 1980 5c in tills at shops

Perhaps you should learn something about the relationship between banks and 'shops'. Where do you think small business get their change from? Posters to this topic have already proven that pre-1980s are very avaialable. You only need to look.


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Mitchell: Hah! I just went through some change to look for one and found it the 3rd 5 cent coin that I examined. It's in reasonable condition, too!

Even the evidence from other posters in this thread doesn't seem to make you see the complete fallacy of your nonsequiturs.


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Banks may have bags of coins but I cannot get to them,no cushy public servise job for me

Again entirely irrelevant. The discussion was about the availability of pre-1980 coins, including 1972s, in circulation. No point in attacking my occupation. I simply state what the facts are and leave it to others to determine the value of my information. Oh, incidentally, I work 99 hours per week, every week. And have done so for the last 4 years. I takes a huge effort for me to keep current in my hobby.


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Spot on sandpit,rotation is what I always understood to be the difference between large and small

P.S the word is Position not Rotation.

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 Posted 01/22/2011  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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1972 5c are now impossible to find in circulation,most pre 1980 5c are not commonly found in loose change as stated before by me


From someone who can't get to the Bank to get coins to search, the above statement is completely ridiculous.

Coins that become loose change come from Banks, then go to Security Companies who deliver them to shops who issue them in change.

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 Posted 01/22/2011  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add b_j_w_79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Yass in the real world there are very few pre 1980 5c in tills at shops. Banks may have bags of coins but I cannot get to them, no cushy public servise job for me


This and many other 'associated' comments are just ridiculous.

If you search coins, that is make an effort, you can find pre 1980 5c coins. I don't have a "cushy public servise job" although I have worked in a public service in the past and it was far from cushy. I work full time and have made relationships with the local banks to swap/pick up coins during my lunch break. I search through them if/when I get time after my young family go to bed. I do it because I enjoy it and therefore it is not a waste of time.

Like others have said, banks provide the change for many businesses either directly over the counter, or indirectly through security companies who bag and deliver coin including that returned from banks.

By the way, I searched another $100 5c pieces searched yesterday;

1966 x 11, 1967 x 12, 1968 x 9, 1969 x 5, 1970 x 5, 1971 x 15, 1972 x 4, 1973 x 12, 1974 x 9, 1975 x 12, 1976 x 23, 1977 x 29, 1978 x 4, 1979 x 18, 1980 x 18. Total 173 coins out of 2000 (8.65%) pre 1980 or 191 coins out of 2000 (9.55%) including 1980.

A much better return of 1972 5c this time

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 Posted 01/23/2011  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BJW: be careful -
keep finding 1972s at that rate and you'll devalue them for all of us !

I've got about $60 of fives that I got from the bank: when I sort them, I'll do a census. That won't be soon, as I have a few other projects to complete first.

Peter, back from holidays
... in a very wet Darwin
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 Posted 01/23/2011  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnsopet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the real world pre 1980 5c are rarely found
Somehow I hit a nerve as a taxpayer
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 Posted 01/23/2011  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Peter, back from holidays
... in a very wet Darwin


If it is any consolation, it is raining here in Melbourne today too Peter. Only difference is where you are it is probably 10 or more degrees warmer!

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 Posted 01/23/2011  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darwin forecast today: H 30° L 24° Thunderstorms
currently 25.5° at 1.45pm
time to start scraping mould off everything ...

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 Posted 01/24/2011  06:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnsopet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had a day off from work today,got 50 bucks in 5c coins from NAB and no surprise to me there was just the odd pre 1980 5c,less than 2% and most are 2000 era.
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 Posted 01/24/2011  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I had a day off from work today

Must be nice to have a 'cushy' job that enables you to take time off to go roll searching. Hope it wasn't the 'Great Australian Sickie', being Monday and all. I'd hate to think of what us non-taxpaying public servants in the un-real world would think if it was.

On a serious note. Sorry to hear about the lack of pre-1980s in your search. It must have sowed the seed of doubt in your mind as to whether roll searching 5 cent pieces is a complete waste of time. Unfortunately, it happens sometimes. I got $100 from the NAB a few weeks ago and didn't find one! Oh wait, they were all new 2009 rolls, so I suppose they don't count. LOL
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 Posted 01/24/2011  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My son tossed all the coins out of his wallet yesterday and the 5¢ I found were:
2008 x 2
2005 x 1
2002 x 1
2001 x 1
1999 x 2
1994 x 1
1981 x 3
1982 x 1
1979 x 1
1967 x 1

So out of 14 coins, 2 were pre 1980.

I then checked the coins in my purse:
2008 x 3
2006 x 1
2001 x 1
1999 x 1
1998 x 1
1996 x 1
1981 x 1
So, 9 coins, no pre 1980
All up, 23 coins, 2 pre 1980.


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 Posted 01/24/2011  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's put things into perspective. There are 786 million pre-1980 in circulation. Post 1980 there were 3,125,712 million minted. That's about 1 in 4. That does not mean that there are no pre-1980 in circulation. It simply means that statistically you have a 1 in 4 chance of having one in your change.
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 Posted 01/24/2011  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
when I check my fives, about half of them are 2006.
I wonder how much longer the little echidna will be in circulation.
I notice that a lot of vending machines and parking meters don't accept them nowadays.

Peter
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