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How Much Longer Left For 5 Cent Coin?

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 Posted 07/08/2011  6:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
There has been quite an amount of speculation in the media recently about scrapping the 5¢ coin. Example http://www.smh.com.au/national/reta...5-1gkuk.html.
Most reports quote metal value of the coins as 3.6¢ which, with production, packaging and delivery costs means these coins are now costing the Government (that is us) more than 5 cents to produce.
Fiji has changed to (cheaper) steel cored 5¢ and New Zealand completely dropped the 5¢ denomination when the new, smaller (also steel cored) coins were introduced in 2006.

Maybe now is the time to start grabbing any good 5¢ coins you find.

Jeff
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 Posted 07/08/2011  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Australian coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen similar topics about the five cent all over this forum; I am not panicking at the moment as nothing is confirmed. But ebay prices on all 5c coins are skyrocketing with everyone in a spin.

I can confirm for everyone on the forum that 2010 and 2011 5c coins will never be released into general circulation.

They are only going to be in mint and proof and baby sets. OK

The Royal Australian Mint is not release them into circulation at all and is only making them in non circulating legal tender for the collectors.

There has been no confirmed tender made for 2012 5c for NCLT.
This is when everyone is expecting them to confirm that 5c production will be no more.

As for when the 5c will no longer be used as currency in Australia is anyone's guess.
They could pull all the 5c from circulation at the beginning of 2012 stating with a whole new financial year.
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 Posted 07/21/2011  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I can confirm for everyone on the forum that 2010 and 2011 5c coins will never be released into general circulation.


I received a 2010 5c in my change last night. I don't usually check all that much but remembered reading here to keep an eye out for new issue 5c.
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 Posted 07/21/2011  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Australian coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Super cool, looks like I have to eat my own words, maybe they didn't go through Armaguard.
he he, well I will be annoying the bank for some 5c baggies.
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 Posted 07/22/2011  02:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Enlil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe they will change to a different metal. Also in 1910 the half penny was worth 25 cents, so it makes you wonder why they keep the small coins at all.
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 Posted 07/22/2011  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It seems to me that the 2010 5 cent production began before before any public announcement was made regarding their future, hence their appearance in circulation.
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 Posted 07/22/2011  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Also in 1910 the half penny was worth 25 cents

Are you sure about that?
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 Posted 07/23/2011  03:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Enlil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is according to the RBA http://www.rba.gov.au/calculator/an...Decimal.html, check for yourself.
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 Posted 07/23/2011  04:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Australian inflation rate during the Whitlam years sharp spiked at nearly 18%.
Average inflation rate without that spike is nearer 3.5% to 4%.

During the Great Depression, the inflation rate was around 2.5%

It is well worth knowing what the inflation rate history is.

I started collecting coins around 40 years ago, and I have marked what I have paid for the more valuable ones.

If they need to be sold, an inflation rate calculator such as this is a useful tool in helping to determine the selling price.

I have an inflation rate graph of the Australian inflation rate history that was released by Vanguard Investments to the investment advisor industry. It is possible to use this graph: I pick any two points along the graph and look at the absolute total inflation value between the two points.

To get the average rate per year, instead of the absolute different difference between any two years, I divide the top value by the bottom one, and use a reitrerative index function on my calculator to get the average rate.

This is worth knowing to find out the value of anything at inflated prices in the future, including my coin collection.
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 Posted 07/23/2011  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wesley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i guess no more 5c struck,enough in reserve,just awaiting announcement of the 5c withdrawal officially in the next 12 mnths
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 Posted 07/23/2011  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
regarding inflation -
in 1907, Justice HIGGINS determined the "basic wage", sufficient for a man to support a non-working wife and three children, was 42 shillings per week (six days' work; one day's rest).
The pay for a Digger in WW1 was six shillings per day.
There were quite a few ups and downs in the 1920s and 1930s, but at the outbreak of WW2 in 1939, a Digger was still paid six shillings per day, although this was increased soon after.
Of course, taxes were a lot lower back then.
So, a half-penny was approximately 0.66% of a daily wage.
And if you extrapolate that to 25 cents today, that would imply that a daily wage of about $37.50 was sufficient ... hmmm.
So, it seems to me that it would not be difficult to make a case that a half-penny of 1910 is the equivalent of a lot more than 25 cents today.
Some other comparisons:
a visit to the Doctor in 1907 - 10s6d;
cost of a telegram from Melbourne to London - 10s6d per word;
which was a quarter of a working man's weekly wage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvester_Judgment
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 Posted 07/23/2011  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Quote:Also in 1910 the half penny was worth 25 cents
Are you sure about that?

I had a quick look at the link, but couldn't find any reference to the Halfpenny being worth 25c in 1910. Have to admit, I didn't spend too long looking though.

The thing is, we didn't have Aussie halfpennies in 1910, and we also didn't have cents in 1910, so I wonder if the author of the article had a bad day.

I really can't see any Government making coins with a fv of 1/2d that cost 25c to make.

It just does not make any sense at all and appears to me to be totally illogical.

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 Posted 07/24/2011  02:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Enlil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We didn't make pennies but they were still around, you may argue about prices and wages but this goes on average inflation rate that includes costs goods. But you can not really compare the prices of two or more different time periods as a lot of things are different including technology and culture. Also it doesn't state the cost of minting a penny in 1910 or 11.
Thankyou Glen
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 Posted 07/24/2011  03:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrestling_135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am guessing nickels will be around for quite a while still.
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