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Can anyone identify? I will lighten the scans if it would help. Thanks.





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 Posted 01/19/2010  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1804 C-5 R-4 Die State IV possibly a little later. This is the first "Spiked Chin" variety but the spike is not showing strongly. (There are four spiked chin varieties plus C-3. C-3 and C-5 are actually the same variety from before and after the damage to the die which created the spiked chin.)
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Thanks very much Conder. The 2x2 that the coin came in said C-5, but I did not know what that mean or if it was even correct.
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my book calls it a E-42 (G-11) and calls it a R-6. here is what it says about it:
Obv: With spiked chin as on E-38,39 and 40.
Rev: same as E-41. usually seen with a long die crack from A in STATES to wreath, L in HALF, T in CENT and C in AMERICA. Crack also through all bases of letters in legend ICA. Rare in top condition

the book is "United States Half Cents 1793-1857" by Q. David Bowers and James F Ruddy
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Thanks for all of the information guys.

The letters and numbers (C-5, E-42, G-11) I assume are all identification codes of different research authors?
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Yes, The C numbers are Cohen numbers which are the most commonly used system today (1971 on). The G numbers are Gilbert numbers from back around 1916 and were the standard numbers used until the Cohen numbers. The E numbers are Empire numbers, a system devised by Q David Bowers and James Ruddy back in the early 60's when they were running Empire Coin Company. No one ever really used E numbers except Empire.
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yeah I think thats what makes this confusing because everyone seems to have their own numbers for them when they write a book. This is the only book I have about Half Cents so that is the only reference material I have to check
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