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Bedrock of the Community
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At last - my first Trinity House £2. I have a feeling this came straight from a bag of uncirculated coins that had just been tipped into the till at my local supermarket. I photographed it against the light, which really shows up all the bag marks and scratches - the coin looks much nicer to the naked eye!   Edited by NumisRob
01/18/2015 07:20 am
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I finally got my hands on one yesterday, although have had the promise of one for a week (Just need to pick it up)
Still no sign of the Scottish thistle £1's though, although they are starting to circulate in bonnie Scotland apparently.
One thing I have noticed among the normal 2014 50p's is that there appears to have been a die clash. Albeit very week, there are traces.
Just need to find a good example and manage to get a photo... A job for this afternoon me thinks .
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Bedrock of the Community
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Got my first Scottish 2014 Thistle £1 in change at the local corner shop today. It was one of four pound coins that I received in change together, and the others were all older ones.
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RED
If you want a nice example of the 2014 commonwealth games 50p with die clash let me know. I have shed loads of them.
Ever day I get a handful of various denominations with flaws/errors, of which the 10p,50p and £2 coins make up the greatest percentage.
I have several Scottish £1's so if you don't get one let me know.
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I got my second ever 2002 Northern Ireland Commonwealth Games £2 in change yesterday!
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02/01/2015 05:59 am
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I'd be very interested in a picture tenbobbit. I've just done a survey of my 160 coins..... 72 NORMAL 48 DIE CRACK 27 SLIGHT ROTATION 6 MECH DOUBLED DIE TAILS 2 M'D'D HEADS 2 DIE DAMAGE 2 CHIN Cud & DIE DAMAGE 1 IMP PLANCHET What struck me as odd, the 'die damage', kind of like a frosting, that I have usually attributed to a dodgy metal mix or plating fault, is identical on all 4 coins, which must mean it was die damage ? (I'll get pics later) Anyway... today is a momentous occasion for me... Just had delivered, my last missing piece....  Which completes my whole collection of 50p, "�1 & "�2 commemoratives. (And, if I dismiss demonetised 5p, 10p & 50p coins, it completes my whole circulation collection bar die varieties)  Edited by Red
02/05/2015 11:39 am
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Impressive collection, Red! I've just been shopping and my change consisted of: - Two immaculate almost-FDC 2014 20p coins - One immaculate almost-FDC 2014 5p coin - One fake 1995 pound coin!  The reverse is a Scottish lion, which was only struck for circulation in 1994 (and in BU / Proof sets in 1999). The edge inscription is DECUS ET TUTAMEN rather than the Scottish NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT. The two sides are pretty much correctly aligned, though! Edited by NumisRob
02/07/2015 12:03 pm
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Do genuine pound coins ever look that worn or is that pretty much a giveaway for a fake?
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Do genuine pound coins ever look that worn or is that pretty much a giveaway for a fake? It's unusual to see a 1995 one quite so worn, but these coins circulate very heavily, and some dates are very weakly struck, so the wear isn't by itself an indication that the coin's a forgery. An 'average circulated' 1985 pound coin looks considerably more worn than this! |
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Nice catch RED I have had a couple of those 50p's from circulation in the past, well done for completing the set  I will try my best to get a decent picture for you but you have already seen my lack of skill with a camera and I'm even worse with the pc. The 2014 c/games 50p's die clash is so abundant I find more with it than without, some easily visible others slightly. If all else fails I'm not scared of sending you some examples, if you don't mind ? |
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Hmm... Something weird here Rob....Whats the motto like on yours ? Anything like this...  Over the past couple of month or two I've picked up TWO fakes with the rampant lion... one of which is 1995 !! (The other 1993) Hmmm weird no ? (You're up here in Tyne & Wear ain't ya?) I only had 5 before picking these ones up !! So after buying some cheapo trays, I decided I needed to sort my drawer out and photograph the errors from the CWG 50p's as they were getting in the way. Half way through and onto looking for a good Cracked Die example.... It dawns on me..... THAT'S THE DIE CLASH !! I'd never put the two and two together before, because I've always thought I had examples of a smaller crack, and it growing bigger. Dumbass Red !! XD Anyway.. as a teaser... look what I got to examine and scan the other day....  New fakes on the block !! Not only did I keep one of each for myself (How could I not) the COIN MECH COMPANY had to take some away for testing as they worked with their new mechs ! The rest will be locked away in some evidence locker by now no doubt. Edited by Red
02/18/2015 2:56 pm
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Glad you finally spotted the clash RED, the hair is often visible in the recess between the girls arm and the word games and the bottom of the bust is between the break in her leg running up to the cyclist. It is often combined with a lot of Cud which obscures the letters and outlines the athletes, lots going on to be honest. If you get bored and you want some unusual examples PM me and I will send you some for your rogues gallery, I'm getting deep into a new area of collecting so have little time for these coins now unfortunately. BTW Nottingham was flooded with fake £1 & 50p coins in the early to mid 90's, taxi drivers were always trying to palm you off with some in your change. I still get the odd 1 now, always with a date between 92-96. |
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@ RED, new fakes as in new examples, or a completely new series? A considerable proportion of fakes going back esp. many such as your Lion Rampant above are undetectable by any machine because the dimensions and alloy were plum within spec. I see they are all Bridges. See this about the latest Onel-related arrests?: http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/1175...ssex/?ref=mr Although neither the article text nor other coverage is clear over whether fake coins were actually seized. As previously discussed, Onel made a Bridges series apparently the crisp-looking ones with bevelled rims. |
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Something weird here Rob....Whats the motto like on yours ? Sorry RED about the delay - I had to find it again, having thrown it into a box with all my other fakes!   The workmanship looks much cruder than your example! And, incidentally, I live in Kent - though I have a good friend in Tyne and Wear, whom I often visit, and I also have occasionally gone there on business, so I may have referred to getting coins in change there in previous posts! Edited by NumisRob
02/21/2015 08:14 am
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Yeah Rob, you mentioned something in a post a while back that made me assume you were from up here.
I was too quick to put 2 and 2 together and get 5, thinking maybe either an old stash or old faker were back at work.
@Moral They're a completely new series... at least as far as I'm concerned... Never come across anything quite like them before.
The scans don't bring them out properly... they're quite dark, soapy details with a woody effect to the surface.
The good thing (for me anyway) is all three designs show things very unique to this particular series.
* The Forth coins all have a double (rotated) die clash in the 'sky' behind the bridge.
* The Egyptians have a series of raised diagonal lines running through the centre, and show traces of a die clash.
* The Menais all have what looks like a sprue in the centre of the obverse.
They vary quite a bit too, weights from 9.57 - 9.8g and circumferences from 22.51 - 22.76mm (Varying by as much as .07 in each coin)
I didn't have time to measure the depth but they varied coin by coin and some examples varied within the coin itself.
I'll try and get the scans organised and get some pics uploaded soon.
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