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 Posted 02/21/2015  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Red to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You saw them here first.... the first viewable pics of the new trio
(I hope to find the fourth design if it was done by the same people)

I forgot to mention the doubling on the obv on this one too!!
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(Notice the four rim chips in this one ? This was the only coin to have them.. I assume its from the collar they're using to hold the coin?)
You can see the grainy texture coming across in this one too
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All the edges are identical and to be honest are quite good.
There is a semi-circular mark in the pattern, which I have seen before (But can't track it down at the moment) which was more visible on some than others.
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I'll take some natural light shots tomorrow on my cam & phone to try and give a better sense of the colours.


(PS While looking through my few fakes yet to be put online, I only went and found ANOTHER one from the hoard,
which I must have gotten a week or so before the influx....
It looks better quality metal, although the tell-tale sprue mark is there right above the queens ear.)
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02/21/2015 5:49 pm
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 Posted 02/21/2015  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moralclimate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome RED! Just when I thought it was safe to do more cash handling work!

Edge engraving and soapiness have a familiar look, coincidence or has someone been helping out again? Woodgrain look is unusual but your 2011 £2 obverse centre also has something like it, same metal supplier? The 'sprue' spots are really, really odd.

Correcting earlier note. I've had real Egyptian Arch with those parallel lines, soapy Forth Bridge with a differently orientated die clash in sky behind and another with a yet different axis double die clash, also soapy Menai with die clash on obverse. Plus a straw-coloured Forth Bridge that seemed to match the pic from a news report of a 'binary brass' faker busted in Eastern England. But none like the above.

And also what I believe was a prototypical Onel Forth Bridge with messy but similarly orientated die clash. Opposite of soapy though.
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 Posted 02/22/2015  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Red to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Uploaded in June 2014, Here's one that uses the same dies/process as the New Menai's (There's the Sprue again)
and also has, albeit in a slightly different place, the semi-circular mark in the edge pattern.
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The motto is close, but not exact.... In the example above the pattern is more extended with a shorter gap either side of the dots)

Found the same die clash in 9 other Egyptian Arch coins, 5 of which are using the same dies (9,10,11,12 & 24 - as can be seen by the die crack/line protruding from the 0 in 06) and 3 of which (5, 7 & 29) have their own same dies, although 7 shows 'wood rings' in the centre of the arch whereas the other two don't (Wood rings seen in 5 coins total (3,7,15,17 & 32)

Also have 4 examples with die clashes showing in the Forth Bridge coins, one of which is rotated about 175', and the other three (30,36 & 38) are all a single clash, using the same die set. (Raised area obverse on the F of .F.D.) but none showing double rotated clashes as the new ones do.
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 Posted 02/23/2015  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moralclimate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RED, thanks very much. A correction. I don't have an Egyptian Arch with those parallel lines inside and I may be thinking of a fake I saw on ebay. The ad I think it was has had its record erased.

I'm curious as to what is the earliest discovery date you can ascribe to any coin that definitely used one of the same dies as the new series, whether face or edge engraving. I'm wondering if any die could have survived from an operation we may have thought had been ended by high profile raids/convictions.
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 Posted 02/24/2015  10:18 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My haul from change today:

- One Trinity House £2 (nice reverse, heavy bagmarks on obverse)
- One Olympic 50p (Gymnastics)
- Two Commonwealth Games 50p's (up until today, only ever seen one in the wild)
- One 1997 Mauritius 10 Rupees masquerading as a 50p!

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 Posted 02/25/2015  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Red to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ooh never seen the Rupees one before....
I love imposter coins as much as fakes... Just a shame I see MUCH more of the latter

Don't know if you use Facebook Rob, but there's a group on there Coin Collectors UK Buy Trade & Sell (https://www.facebook.com/groups/collectcoins/)

Not my group, but I'm in it, People swapping Olympic 50's and commemorative £2's etc
(A lot of folks into territory coins too)
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 Posted 02/28/2015  11:28 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info, RED.

Owing to various issues (cyberbullying etc) suffered by an acquaintance I have never joined either Facebook or Twitter. I am sure that most users are perfectly nice but I've never had any desire to join. Perhaps I'll have to some day!
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 Posted 03/19/2015  06:48 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got a Benjamin Britten 50p in change yesterday - only the second one I've had. Quite well circulated - down to about EF.
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 Posted 03/22/2015  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Following on from the fake £1 coin I posted the other day here is a fake £2 coin I received today, the first I have had.
Date - 2003. Weight - 10.23g.


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They didn't even bother with an edge inscription !
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 Posted 03/22/2015  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moralclimate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very unusual tenbobbit, lucky one! By the way you have private messages barred on your account settings at the moment.
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Thx Moral, I will go and sort it
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 Posted 04/03/2015  06:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andyg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First 2015 coin...
quite early for once and with the old portrait.

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 Posted 04/03/2015  06:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Red to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was somehow given the impression that only the new portrait would be on circulated coins this year
but after a few of these pennies have turned up, and a blurb by Westminster/RoyalMint (I forget which)
saying this year is unprecedented by having two portraits on the circulating coins,
I was clearly mistaken !!
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 Posted 04/04/2015  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Demarco Bishopp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to have to start looking for 2015 pennies, with both heads.

I have a complete collection 1971-2014 1 penny coins. It was really easy to put together but I'm still proud of it.
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 Posted 04/11/2015  08:37 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rescued this today from some change my brother had left on his kitchen table (I paid him face value for it) - Isle of Man 2010 pound coin:
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