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No Date Standing Liberty Quarter (1916?)

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 Posted 03/02/2010  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pinenut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. That sounds incredibly ignorant of your coin shop guy. I'm glad you took a picture of it before you handed it over.
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I have not seen the reverse of your coin but would guess it to be a FR2. I think I know where he is trying to go with this but I don't think so in this case. The level of preservation of your coin has worn the details into the fields and other devices so thus, the gown touching the right foot is just wear. I don't think so. I am with you and would have taken that bet! Can't wait to see what ANACS says. Diagnostically speaking, it looks good. I could be wrong but then again, I'd only be out a buck :-)
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 Posted 03/02/2010  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Pinenut, most likely a new dealer. I agree with Dave, either FR-2 or AG-3, and it will most likely end up in a Details holder due to the rim damage.
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 Posted 03/02/2010  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coinshop guys is flat out wrong! Has he ever looked on Heritage? There are dozens of slabbed dateless 1916 Standing quarters. Yeah, send it to ANACS and give him some education. :-)
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I hope he doesn't mind losing his paycheck. Since he seems to not know how to differentiate, did you ask if he has any piles of dateless Type 1's you could buy off of him for melt? LOL.
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 Posted 03/03/2010  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually I did. All his SLQs in the melt box were type 2.
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One thing to remember is that most coin shop owners are generalists, i.e. they have broad-based knowledge but may not have specialized knowledge about any particular series or they may only know one or two types really well. I have seen a significant number of shop owners that are completely ignorant in regards to errors and die varieties, unless it is a 1955 or 1972 Lincoln DDO that ever collector knows about, it is nothing to them. I have seen owners call valuable broadstruck coins low value off-centers and capped die errors as damaged coins
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 Posted 03/03/2010  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, please do not get it wrong, I am not intending to bash the guy. I am sure he has knowledge in other areas of the hobby that I do not, and he is a great source for a good portion of my collection. Just make sure you know your stuff when at the shop.
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Quote:
Just make sure you know your stuff when at the shop.



Hear, hear!
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 Posted 03/24/2010  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afcop13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Curiousity led me to dig this thread up..........did you get the coin graded?
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 Posted 03/24/2010  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is still getting graded at this time. I expect to get it back hopefully by Easter.
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Hahahahaha, the look on that guy's face is going to be priceless!
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It's funny, I was talking to my coin dealer today, and he also had no idea that you could distinguish the difference between the 16 and 17 due to die characteristics. He is a very knowlegable dealer and collector and attends lots of major coin shows. Maybe this issue with the "die characteristics" of dateless 16s is not really all that well known. Both Nod and I appear to have found one within a few months, so there are doubtless more out there that many experienced numismatists may completely overlook.
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 Posted 03/26/2010  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nod, did you ever post the reverse of your 1916? Could you? I come back to this thread a lot for reference.

thanks.
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 Posted 03/26/2010  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, I don't think I took a photo of the reverse. I will double check my hard drive when I get home.
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