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Found these while out metal detecting on saturday, they were pretty much right next to each other(and a annular brooch!) so that makes me think they are from the same period. I think they are short cross pennies? http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/1033...nys?h=e84961Thanks. Identified - moved to British Coins forum - Sap |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm not real good with these but the are short cross pennies and I think the second one is Henry III S1356A (Coins of England & the United Kingdom by Spinks, 43rd edition.) I can't tell who the coiner was so I don't know which mint it's from. OK that helped. The image of the reverse was upside down. Canterbury Mint, coiner is Tomas.
I think the first is also Henry III S1355 Canterbury mint, coiner is Iohan.
And being Henry III short cross pennies the time period would be 1216 - 1247
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03/24/2010 2:09 pm
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Valued Member
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Are they the same coin just one has discolored?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The second one does look like Tomas of Canterbury mint which implies it is Henry III. The first (which is easier to read) indeed reads Iohan of Canterbury but that may mean that the "Henricus" could be Richard I (1189 - 1199), John (1199 - 1216), or Henry III.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The portrait and the legend placement on the second one most closely matched those shown for Henry III. With that long triangular portrait I don't see anything for Richard I that could match it and the only John piece that comes close in S1354 but it has a singular hair curl on either side of the head and "popeyes" while the coin in question seems to have two curls on either side and the eyes are sunken in as on S1355.
No they are not the same coin, they are from different dies and were struck by different people, and probably at different times during the 1216 - 47 period.
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Thanks for your input, that fits in with the moated castle near by that was built in 1140 and demolished in 1460(ish).
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Very nice find. Do you have to report these?
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United Kingdom
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Yes, because we belong to the local archeological society and not much medieval stuff has come up in the park we have to report them. The society then take the items away(mainly the brooch)and usually get them back to you in the next few weeks after they have been pinpointed and draw.
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United States
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They must be really old roman coins.
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Um, no. They're mediaeval English hammered pennies. Really old, yes, but not Roman, nor ancient.
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