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Developing My Newest Coin Product! Verdi-Care

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 Posted 04/21/2010  04:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HURRY UP ALREADY! ! !

pretty please?

I never throw a coin away.. I have piles of the poor little corroded things everywhere.. they look at me sadly every time I pass by.. 'just wait, little coins.. we're waiting on Thad but all he does is tease us with his lovely conserved indians and lincolns...'

waiting.. patiiiieeeeennnnnttttllllyyyyyy.....

::gnaws fingernails:: ::twitches::

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 Posted 04/21/2010  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOLOLOL

Patience, the time is coming. I was hoping to have all my beta tester results in....not sure if that's going to happen now. My main two testers are MIA. However, I've done enough experimenting on my own to move forward. I'm hoping to have Wizard stocked the first week of May.
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 Posted 04/21/2010  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afcop13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BadThad - being fairly new to the hobby, is this product "user friendly"? I love the results you've shown on many coins so far and have several older Buffs, Jeffs and LWC's I'd be interested in trying it on as well. I just don't want to screw anything up.

Thanks.
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 Posted 04/21/2010  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, VERDI-CARE™ is very, very "user friendly", much more so than VERDI-GONE™. The chances of user error are practically zero. My only concern is when people use it on coins with artificial colorants or chemicals. Obviously, it could remove those to reveal the truth about the coin surfaces. Often people incorrectly conclude that the product "damaged" the coin, when in fact the coin was already damaged. VERDI-CARE™ absolutely cannot damage a coin surface when used as directed.
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 Posted 04/22/2010  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have you begun to think about cost? I know most folks don't have much good to say about the omnipresent Coin Care, but it is quite inexpensive!

Curiously,
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 Posted 04/22/2010  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good question and yes, I've given the price a lot of thought. Coin Care is cheap for two reasons: 1) It's nothing but mineral oil and odorant 2) They only sell it in 1 oz containers. The bottle they sell it in costs MORE than the product!

I can't compete with Coin Care on price and I don't want to. Think of Coin Care as a 1980 Yugo and VERDI-CARE™ as a 2010 Mercedes. Chemically and performance wise, that's the difference. VERDI-CARE™ will come in 2 oz. bottles (twice the size of Coin Care). I know once people try it, they will be glad to have the extra ounce!

...bottomline...it will be more expensive than Coin Care but you'll be driving a Mercedes and not a Yugo.
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 Posted 04/22/2010  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man, if I could drive my coin collection around, I'd have a heckuva fleet! (And would probably get carjacked first thing!)

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 Posted 04/22/2010  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please be patient with me. I promise to get you results posted before the end of the month. Thanks.
I just wanna report it correctly.
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 Posted 04/22/2010  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No problem Dogman! I appreciate your efforts!
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 Posted 04/22/2010  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ran a few more tests tonight focusing on verdigris. Rub method, 30-45 seconds, pat dry, blow with canned air and photograph.


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 Posted 04/22/2010  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Same test as above:


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 Posted 04/22/2010  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Took a look at how the ASE was doing. It's looks GREAT for a beat-up ASE after 14 days under room conditions!

Left before treatment, right 14 days after:

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04/22/2010 10:28 pm
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 Posted 04/25/2010  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
https://goccf.com/t/62434&whichpage=9#499045

This is my results update for the post above.

What I did first with BadThads Verdi-Care was use a couple common coins from change first.

I had a 2000 P nickel that had a horrible obverse that was 70% covered with a bright green verdigris. It was not old and the green seemed to be rather thin.
I had a clear glass dessert bowl and I placed a small square of paper towel on the bottom.
With the eyedropper I put enough Verdi-Care on the one side of the coin that was green to cover it and watched it.
Within about 30 seconds I could see the green actually lifting off the surface.
At this point, I feel I should have taken the coin out rinsed it with water and used a microfiber towel soaked in distilled water and wiped it down. But I didn't. I think it would have been a great fix but I waited too long with the Verdi-Care floating on the obverse and when I did do what I said above at about 1 minute to a minute and a half, the verdigris was definitely completely gone but so was the luster and it had a very white appearance everywhere that the green stuff was. So, lesson learned. DO NOT OVER SOAK!

Oddly enough, I had a similar situation on the reverse of a 1995 Lincoln Memorial cent and gave it about a minute soak ( knowing that 30 seconds is suggested ) and the reverse came clean but was very dark and had a white film over it.

( I am not done with these, I think another shot once they settle for a couple days may help lift that white off the cent and maybe the nickel will darken on it's own. )

Finally, a 45 second soak removed a lot of the green on a 1967 Lincoln obverse. It could use a second shot to see what that might do.
These coins need to "rest" I think.

The best results were from a couple more important coins.

A 1916 D Buffalo had brown verdigris and green on both sides. While it was not completely removed, the coin itself looks better and the problems seem to have been reduced by perhaps 40 %.

Maybe a second crack at this in a few days will also improve it some more but I do not think that it could ever be completely removed.

The same process of about a 45 second coating on each side and then a rinse and wipe down with a microfiber cloth produced even better results on my 1854 Large Cent.

The cloudy verdigris was reduced by about 60% and also a thin layer or haze of green that was covering the entire surface completely disappeared. The color of the coin stayed pretty much the same.
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I am not a picture taker. I hope my verbal description is good. I can see results, I can also see that certain coins will react different than other. I think experience working with VERDI-CARE will help with what results one could expect after a little experimenting.
It seems that my older coins cleaned up better than the newer ones.

I have a few more yet to do.
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 Posted 04/26/2010  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Dog!

That large cent result was the most amazing! Don't be afraid of using the microfiber towel. It will give you much better results compared to soaking. As long as the coin only contacts the wetted area of the towel, there will be NO surface scratches.

For the tougher verdigris, put some product directly on the coin and rub the verdigris (or even surface debris) with a toothpick or thorn. I've had good luck removing the tougher stuff this way.
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 Posted 04/26/2010  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just wish I were a better photographer. I will certainly be doing more since I have a good supply yet. I have some other good candidates.
I did not realize that I could be a little more aggressive with the wet ( with Verdi-Care) towel.
I bet that the Large cent will completely clean up.

31 more grueling days of school bus driving yet. I have so many excuses not to get this done. I will though. I will report on every time I use the stuff and how it worked out.
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04/26/2010 5:45 pm
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