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Wrong Oz, I will never be a great vammer, I own two Morgans, no Peace, and I have no intentions of increasing those figures. I really don't care anything about the coins called "vams", I am interested in cause and effect, the people, machines, tools, and processes that created those coins that I don't care about. Why am I here then?
I juss be likin' to hang wiff muh homies, muh buds....dig?
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In my correspondence with Leroy, the concave fields were not noted for the discovery coin by Lawrence Galbraith in June 2005.
I contacted Mr. Galbraith. He no longer owns the discovery coin, furthermore he does not remember the coin having concave fields.
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The photo was not of the type that would show the concave effect that well either. In hand, is it pretty obvious (an eye catcher)? If so, strange that neither owner or godfather would have noticed it. As Gene so aptly pointed out, picking another out of a bargain bin may result in a tall order.
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The concave effect is striking on both sides. It is the first thing you notice. This coin is the first reported concave coin for the 1883-O series. Leory's words when asked about VAM 52 being concave was and I quote "Not noted at the time". Larence galbraith did not remember his coin being concave. I will eventually (hopefully at least) get to the bottom of this. |
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I am sure that eventually, you will. At least, if anyone can, I believe it will be you. Have you discussed it with Brian R. ? The notion has been thrust upon me that he has personally examined every coin in existence, (and a few extra).  |
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Oz that is too bad, But it sounds like a real nice coin
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I think its quite "UNIQUE",, some were listed in the 78P series and then later declared non_existing.. this one definately exists!really cool...  THE KING OF DEEP DISH PIZZA!!  |
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I'm in lurk/learn mode for this particular subtopic, never having spent much time contemplating concave strikes. It'd be interesting to know just how much they differ, dimensionally. It'd actually be interesting to know just how much dimensional difference there is in a *lot* of differing Morgans. Now I gotta add a micrometer to the wish list.  |
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Just to attempt one more attack at the over hyped opinion of the gods before I go. Just what in the world makes the 78 v-44 the 'King of vams'? Is it just some tripled cotton bolls and doubling of bird legs that does it? Personally, I think that just the concept of a coin that is concave on both sides, blows everything else out of the water. Til some other time Dudes, Lou  |
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That's a very interesting question! "King of vams"....thou it does have one interesting features... it clearly doesn't have all the bells and whistles of some other vams......or is it that perhaps there are few of them? YET there are many with few known...but no premium  is there an even playing field? or is the football game played in the mountains? Buy the way.. great thought Zee....one worth looking at...not that we will find an answer |
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Zee, The Vam-44 is far from common, is the thing. And one an a MS grade is so rare it has become a dream. The reverse of this coin is on only 1 other type but the obverse is only known too have been paired with this one reverse. 7 over 3 tails. Sorry I do what one !!  . But yes there are a lot of very very neat VAM's that never seem to get much attention  |
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I can't disagree with you on that Russ. It is one hard coin to find, especially in higher grades..my only thought was the "king",, there are several on the block where they are very unique at this point..only just a few know, or some even mow waiting to know that there are more than one examples, but have not been found. It's long been known this coin has been out there and the search for so many years have not produced many, so yes there is credence to the claim. but then if a few are known how do they rate for the champion's claim to king? just a thought..
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I would guess that in truth even a king can be over thrown times change the old king gets old and one day another son is anointed the new KING....with the money on the line.....that's not going to happen....
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Just what in the world makes the 78 v-44 the 'King of vams'? Is it just some tripled cotton bolls and doubling of bird legs that does it? It's another reflection of the numismatic equation: price = demand + rarity. One could very likely build a complete set of, say, 3CN Gem Proofs for far less money than an equivalent number of Gem 1909-S/VDB Lincolns, and a heckuva lot less than 484,000 3CN Proofs were struck. So it is with VAM-44 - popularity plus a modicum of rarity is the reason it's the King. If it were just about rarity, no question VAM-1X would be King. If a second 1X is ever found, it will be King. We can comfort each other right now that it's unique, but a second would imply a third.... |
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very well reasoned and spoken.....Politics is in everything....and I won't get into that ...just yet , the list thing I mean... |
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