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1977-D Silver Half - Call Me Crazy!

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 Posted 03/04/2011  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lincolncentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In other words...its not silver?
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 Posted 03/04/2011  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Billie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In other words...they will not decide one way or another.
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 Posted 03/04/2011  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I would be disappointed to say the least...you already had "questionable authenticity"...at the very least they should send it back and reimburse your money.
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 Posted 03/04/2011  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It depends on whether they gave it a code 86(No Decision) or code 90(Not Genuine). 86 gets you a refund when they cannot definitively authenticate it or deem it counterfeit, that is usually the case for coins with extreme damage of some sort that makes marker matching impossible. 90 gets you no refund and the coin is shipped back in a body bag and I bet that this coin falls into the latter category. Altered genuine coins also fall under the 90 code(ex. a 1922-D Lincoln Cent with the D removed).
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 Posted 03/04/2011  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats crazy! I woudl also want a reponse of either yay or nay
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 Posted 03/04/2011  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add invisibleninja7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, that's a real downer, I hope they'll at least reimburse you for it.
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 Posted 03/04/2011  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fatboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I don't understand either it is or it is't if they can't say, who can?
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86 No Decision- Coin's status inconclusive
No Opinion
Fee refunded. In the rare instances where the experts at PCGS are unable to determine conclusively that a coin is either genuine or counterfeit, that coin will be returned to the submitter ungraded.

PCGS spends a great deal of time examining coins that have been harshly cleaned, corroded and or tooled. PCGS must be able to positively determine that a coin is both genuine and has not been "holed and plugged". In some situations the surface of the coin is completely destroyed, and in these instances PCGS will not render an opinion on the coin. Many counterfeit coins are harshly altered or intentionally damaged in an attempt to fool the grading services. If a coin is worn or damaged to an extent that makes it impossible to identify the date, mint mark, or variety, a no-grade 86 will be issued.

90 Not Genuine- Fake coin or altered mintmark, date, variety
Questionable Authenticity
Fee not refunded. The coin is either a known counterfeit or exhibits characteristics of known counterfeits and is therefore highly suspect. This category includes otherwise genuine coins which have been altered to simulate rarities (re-engraved dates, added mintmarks, removed mintmarks, etc.)
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 Posted 03/04/2011  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I thought this mystery would be solved at this point. But onward it goes.

Questionable Authenticity....you would think they would tell you what exactly was questionable about the authenticity?
But no....so here we go.

Do you think it was plated?
Let us know.
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 Posted 03/04/2011  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oblakavshtanax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it certainly didn't appear plated to me, given that it has a ring going around the reeding, much like a normal clad/silver.
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That sucks that after all of that, it came back as "questionable authenticity." Make sure to post the code , at least if it's the 86, you get your money back.

The good news is that for all those nay sayers, that does mean it's not an ordinary Kennedy half. Something is up with it, whether it be genuine silver, or intentionally modified to appear that way.
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 Posted 03/05/2011  05:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not saying this is a fake, but I've always felt that if someone can make a fake good enough to fool the experts, then for all practical purposes, it's genuine. The reason I don't think it's fake is a logical one: Why would anyone make a fake of a five figure coin that is so good that even the experts can't tell, then spend it for a half buck?

I'd be sending it to NGC and ANACS if need be.

I understand wanting only to do non-destructive testing, but I'm wondering if an 86 might justify other tests. For example, if a tiny nick is the only way to prove things one way or the other, nothing is lost if it's fake, and if it's genuine it won't matter, because any other genuine ones would have to have a similar nick.
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bigfred people do things for various reasons some unexplainable

Some like to help , give and care thats how they achieve pleasure in life , while some like to lie ,steal,cheat decieve that how they get their pleasure

I dont know why but someone took a baseball bat to my mail box. The police cuaght him bashing mail boxes late at night another weekend and asked how many he damaged, he confessed to over 20 mail boxes smiled about it and only regreted getting cuaght

He took some secret joy in doing this dont know why and this was a guy over 40yrs old that acted alone while he did this. The creepiest part is the police said he would smash a mail box at 3-5 am the later come back and watch at 8-9 am from a parked car as the people pulled out of their driveway to work and found the smashed box in the road. This guy got off one watching people finding something he destroyed

Yet some people give all they have in life to help others
I met a lady that lived alone and sheltered homeless cats she was missing teeth and never bought stuff for herself yet paid 100$ a week in food to feed over 50 cats living in her house.

If someone thought they could plate a half dollar silver and throw it into circulation and see if it ever popped up online , thats prob how they got their jolies luaghing and following this post all the way.
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 Posted 03/07/2011  04:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yonatin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with bigfred but, then there is always a negative to a positive. if they did make a fake you would think they would try and sell if before they dumped into circulation. Another scenario is they may have tried to sell it, and someone didn't want to take the chance and pick it up due to it may be a fake. They probably then decided to just put into circulation and like Copper top said and see if it popped up on the interwebs.
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