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5 Cents 1932 ( Varieties : Far 2 And Near 2 )

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 Posted 02/27/2013  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

That's a fascinating idea.

I would think for cost reasons specimen dies likely got put into business strike production after the small number of specimens were struck. They are probably what accounts for the extraordinary high grade business strike examples over the years.

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David Bergeron of the " National Currency Museum " confirmed me that, after the production of 200-250 specimens, the reverse die had been used to strike business coins, in this period.
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How would he know? LOLOLOL
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So, somewhere out there are 200-250 specimen far 2s?

Does this explain the 1926 as well?
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@ SPP-Ottawa,

You say about " specimen " of 5 cents 1932 Far 2 : " I have my doubts ".

You can see, in the National Currency Collection, specimens of 5 cents for the dates 1922, 1924, 1927, 1928, 1931, 1932 and 1936.

http://www.currencymuseum.ca/collec.../view/8/coin
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SPP - It doesn't look like a specimen strike to myself either, but I haven't seen many (if any) early specimen NICKELS. When you consider that the metal is so hard, it is possible that specimens in the early years of nickel coins weren't struck very well.
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It is a far.
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Yes jg86,

It's a very nice Far 2
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many specimen dies have been refurbished and used to strike circulation coins over the years. Nothing more than a cost saving measure.
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Following the last update, 03/02/2013, I obtain from coincommunity and numicanada some new data.
Today, at the ANPB show, I obtain more data for a total of :

- 1 Far 2
- 264 Near 2

So the trend is now ;

33/4116 = 0.80 % for the variety Far 2.
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@ SPP-Ottawa,

You say about " specimen " of 5 cents 1932 Far 2 : " I have my doubts ".

You can see, in the National Currency Collection, specimens of 5 cents for the dates 1922, 1924, 1927, 1928, 1931, 1932 and 1936.


So what the heck is your point?

I look at the coin itself - not what someone, or what a website, says it is.... just because it was catalogued that way in the Bank of Canada museum, does not mean it was catalogued correctly!! Study the coin, and the strike!! Do you believe everything you read in a book or see on a website?

I work quite closely with David Bergeron on a number of pieces that I test in my lab - we find archiving "errors" all the time...


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@ SPP-Ottawa,

You know and me too that " Specimen Sets ", on canadian coins, exist only for years 1929, 1930, 1931 and 1934 ( including coins of 5 cents ), for the period 1922-1936 : this is confirmed by some authors.

I know too that " Specimens " for 5 cents coins exist nearly for all date between 1922 and 1936.

I see in the site of " National Currency Museum " that some 5 cents coins, dated 1922, 1924, 1927, 1928, 1931, 1932 and 1936 were listed " Specimens ". This is a collection of canadian coins, not a collection of moroccan coins, so, I cannot imagine that it is normal and frequent to " find archiving errors all the time ..." !
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This is a collection of canadian coins, not a collection of moroccan coins, so, I cannot imagine that it is normal and frequent to " find archiving errors all the time ..." !


Then, expand your imagination... because we do...

Museum curators are not always numismatists...
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So, as you are a real numismatist, I think that we will be privileged, if you can clarify this listing, as soon as possible.
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